Questions about UK Travel Part 2
You guys were helpfull in my last post, thanks. Now I have some more questions.
Background... We are flying into Gatwick on April 26th and returning to the U.S. on May 27th out of Gatwick. We're going to spend April 27 to May 15th in the UK, mostly London with day trips to outlying areas and then 6 or 7 days in Scotland. We'll probably choose Glasgow or Edinburgh to stay every night, but see the other city also, and maybe some outlying areas. We've never been to Scotland, but we spent 3 weeks in London 5 years ago and feel we need another 10 to 14 days to finish seeing it. On May 15 we board a cruise ship in Copenhagen which departs at 9pm for a 10 night Baltic sea journey, returning to Copenhagen. We have yet to make transportation arrangements to Scotland and to Copenhagen. Some of these questions are answered by travel guides, but the guide could easily be out of date too. 1. Regarding Glasgow vs Edinburgh, which city would you suggest we stay in? We actually hope to find a furnished apartment (flat) for our stay there to avoid having to continually search for restaurants. We're healthy and walking is easy for us. We enjoy going to museums and parks. We're not interested in any "nightlife". 2. Train or plain? Which way to get to Scotland? We're leaning towards the train as the flight from the U.S. will be long enough, plus in the U.S. travelling by train is pretty rare, unless you live in one of the big eastern cities. We're from the west. So travelling by train would be a new experience. 2A. If by train, do we need advance reservations like we need on a plane? Does the fare change by how far in advance you purchase tickets, like flying, or is the fare always the same? 2B. Say we're travelling central London to central Edinburgh, how much longer, door to door, does it take by train than by plane, assuming it takes longer? 3. I've been looking at air fares from Scotland to Copenhagen and then back to London and thei're pretty high. So then I looked at fares from London to Copenhagen and back and they're pretty reasonable, but they don't go back to Gatwick. They use either London City Airport or Heathrow. Is there good frequent transportation from these two airports to Gatwick, as my departure out of Gatwick is at 1:50pm? 3A. My 1999 London tube map shows LCY being served only by a rail line. Is this still true? I've read that the tube system has been expanded in recent years. So what's the best way to get to and from LCY? 4. What are some good day trips from London? We've heard about Canterbury, Oxford, and Stratford-on-Avon. (Allright, I've haven't done any research on this subject Thanks in advance. No email please. |
Re: Questions about UK Travel Part 2
rvfulltime (was xenman) wrote:[color=blue]
> 2A. If by train, do we need advance reservations like we need on a > plane?[/color] Depends on how much you want to spend! Advance tickets are much much cheaper in some cases. Like on a plane. You do not need reservations on planes too but you will have to pay much much more. (and it depends on the train company!) [color=blue] > 2B. Say we're travelling central London to central Edinburgh, how > much longer, door to door, does it take by train than by plane, > assuming it takes longer?[/color] Depends where your door is! Train: 4-6h, plane 1h. (plus the door to door thing) Plane could be cheaper if you fly Easyjet or Ryanair etc. NB: Ryanair serves Glasgow Prestwick which is far away from Glasgow. [color=blue] > So then I looked at fares > from London > to Copenhagen and back and they're pretty reasonable, but they don't > go > back to Gatwick. They use either London City Airport or Heathrow.[/color] Ryanair flies Malmö - Stansted. Should be cheapest! And Easyjet serves Copenhagen - Stansted. [color=blue] > Is > there good frequent transportation from these two airports to > Gatwick, as my departure out of Gatwick is at 1:50pm?[/color] Will be a hassle. Make a break in London. [color=blue] > 4. What are some good day trips from London? We've heard about > Canterbury, Oxford, and Stratford-on-Avon.[/color] Cotswolds, Bath, Wells, Norwich, castles in Sussex etc. lg Gernot |
Re: Questions about UK Travel Part 2
rvfulltime (was xenman) wrote:[color=blue]
> 2A. If by train, do we need advance reservations like we need on a > plane?[/color] Depends on how much you want to spend! Advance tickets are much much cheaper in some cases. Like on a plane. You do not need reservations on planes too but you will have to pay much much more. (and it depends on the train company!) [color=blue] > 2B. Say we're travelling central London to central Edinburgh, how > much longer, door to door, does it take by train than by plane, > assuming it takes longer?[/color] Depends where your door is! Train: 4-6h, plane 1h. (plus the door to door thing) Plane could be cheaper if you fly Easyjet or Ryanair etc. NB: Ryanair serves Glasgow Prestwick which is far away from Glasgow. [color=blue] > So then I looked at fares > from London > to Copenhagen and back and they're pretty reasonable, but they don't > go > back to Gatwick. They use either London City Airport or Heathrow.[/color] Ryanair flies Malmö - Stansted. Should be cheapest! And Easyjet serves Copenhagen - Stansted. [color=blue] > Is > there good frequent transportation from these two airports to > Gatwick, as my departure out of Gatwick is at 1:50pm?[/color] Will be a hassle. Make a break in London. [color=blue] > 4. What are some good day trips from London? We've heard about > Canterbury, Oxford, and Stratford-on-Avon.[/color] Cotswolds, Bath, Wells, Norwich, castles in Sussex etc. lg Gernot |
Re: Questions about UK Travel Part 2
rvfulltime (was xenman) wrote:[color=blue]
> 2A. If by train, do we need advance reservations like we need on a > plane?[/color] Depends on how much you want to spend! Advance tickets are much much cheaper in some cases. Like on a plane. You do not need reservations on planes too but you will have to pay much much more. (and it depends on the train company!) [color=blue] > 2B. Say we're travelling central London to central Edinburgh, how > much longer, door to door, does it take by train than by plane, > assuming it takes longer?[/color] Depends where your door is! Train: 4-6h, plane 1h. (plus the door to door thing) Plane could be cheaper if you fly Easyjet or Ryanair etc. NB: Ryanair serves Glasgow Prestwick which is far away from Glasgow. [color=blue] > So then I looked at fares > from London > to Copenhagen and back and they're pretty reasonable, but they don't > go > back to Gatwick. They use either London City Airport or Heathrow.[/color] Ryanair flies Malmö - Stansted. Should be cheapest! And Easyjet serves Copenhagen - Stansted. [color=blue] > Is > there good frequent transportation from these two airports to > Gatwick, as my departure out of Gatwick is at 1:50pm?[/color] Will be a hassle. Make a break in London. [color=blue] > 4. What are some good day trips from London? We've heard about > Canterbury, Oxford, and Stratford-on-Avon.[/color] Cotswolds, Bath, Wells, Norwich, castles in Sussex etc. lg Gernot |
Re: Questions about UK Travel Part 2
rvfulltime (was xenman) wrote:[color=blue]
> 2A. If by train, do we need advance reservations like we need on a > plane?[/color] Depends on how much you want to spend! Advance tickets are much much cheaper in some cases. Like on a plane. You do not need reservations on planes too but you will have to pay much much more. (and it depends on the train company!) [color=blue] > 2B. Say we're travelling central London to central Edinburgh, how > much longer, door to door, does it take by train than by plane, > assuming it takes longer?[/color] Depends where your door is! Train: 4-6h, plane 1h. (plus the door to door thing) Plane could be cheaper if you fly Easyjet or Ryanair etc. NB: Ryanair serves Glasgow Prestwick which is far away from Glasgow. [color=blue] > So then I looked at fares > from London > to Copenhagen and back and they're pretty reasonable, but they don't > go > back to Gatwick. They use either London City Airport or Heathrow.[/color] Ryanair flies Malmö - Stansted. Should be cheapest! And Easyjet serves Copenhagen - Stansted. [color=blue] > Is > there good frequent transportation from these two airports to > Gatwick, as my departure out of Gatwick is at 1:50pm?[/color] Will be a hassle. Make a break in London. [color=blue] > 4. What are some good day trips from London? We've heard about > Canterbury, Oxford, and Stratford-on-Avon.[/color] Cotswolds, Bath, Wells, Norwich, castles in Sussex etc. lg Gernot |
Re: Questions about UK Travel Part 2
rvfulltime (was xenman) wrote:[color=blue]
> 2A. If by train, do we need advance reservations like we need on a > plane?[/color] Depends on how much you want to spend! Advance tickets are much much cheaper in some cases. Like on a plane. You do not need reservations on planes too but you will have to pay much much more. (and it depends on the train company!) [color=blue] > 2B. Say we're travelling central London to central Edinburgh, how > much longer, door to door, does it take by train than by plane, > assuming it takes longer?[/color] Depends where your door is! Train: 4-6h, plane 1h. (plus the door to door thing) Plane could be cheaper if you fly Easyjet or Ryanair etc. NB: Ryanair serves Glasgow Prestwick which is far away from Glasgow. [color=blue] > So then I looked at fares > from London > to Copenhagen and back and they're pretty reasonable, but they don't > go > back to Gatwick. They use either London City Airport or Heathrow.[/color] Ryanair flies Malmö - Stansted. Should be cheapest! And Easyjet serves Copenhagen - Stansted. [color=blue] > Is > there good frequent transportation from these two airports to > Gatwick, as my departure out of Gatwick is at 1:50pm?[/color] Will be a hassle. Make a break in London. [color=blue] > 4. What are some good day trips from London? We've heard about > Canterbury, Oxford, and Stratford-on-Avon.[/color] Cotswolds, Bath, Wells, Norwich, castles in Sussex etc. lg Gernot |
Re: Questions about UK Travel Part 2
rvfulltime (was xenman) wrote:[color=blue]
> 2A. If by train, do we need advance reservations like we need on a > plane?[/color] Depends on how much you want to spend! Advance tickets are much much cheaper in some cases. Like on a plane. You do not need reservations on planes too but you will have to pay much much more. (and it depends on the train company!) [color=blue] > 2B. Say we're travelling central London to central Edinburgh, how > much longer, door to door, does it take by train than by plane, > assuming it takes longer?[/color] Depends where your door is! Train: 4-6h, plane 1h. (plus the door to door thing) Plane could be cheaper if you fly Easyjet or Ryanair etc. NB: Ryanair serves Glasgow Prestwick which is far away from Glasgow. [color=blue] > So then I looked at fares > from London > to Copenhagen and back and they're pretty reasonable, but they don't > go > back to Gatwick. They use either London City Airport or Heathrow.[/color] Ryanair flies Malmö - Stansted. Should be cheapest! And Easyjet serves Copenhagen - Stansted. [color=blue] > Is > there good frequent transportation from these two airports to > Gatwick, as my departure out of Gatwick is at 1:50pm?[/color] Will be a hassle. Make a break in London. [color=blue] > 4. What are some good day trips from London? We've heard about > Canterbury, Oxford, and Stratford-on-Avon.[/color] Cotswolds, Bath, Wells, Norwich, castles in Sussex etc. lg Gernot |
Re: Questions about UK Travel Part 2
rvfulltime (was xenman) wrote:[color=blue]
> 2A. If by train, do we need advance reservations like we need on a > plane?[/color] Depends on how much you want to spend! Advance tickets are much much cheaper in some cases. Like on a plane. You do not need reservations on planes too but you will have to pay much much more. (and it depends on the train company!) [color=blue] > 2B. Say we're travelling central London to central Edinburgh, how > much longer, door to door, does it take by train than by plane, > assuming it takes longer?[/color] Depends where your door is! Train: 4-6h, plane 1h. (plus the door to door thing) Plane could be cheaper if you fly Easyjet or Ryanair etc. NB: Ryanair serves Glasgow Prestwick which is far away from Glasgow. [color=blue] > So then I looked at fares > from London > to Copenhagen and back and they're pretty reasonable, but they don't > go > back to Gatwick. They use either London City Airport or Heathrow.[/color] Ryanair flies Malmö - Stansted. Should be cheapest! And Easyjet serves Copenhagen - Stansted. [color=blue] > Is > there good frequent transportation from these two airports to > Gatwick, as my departure out of Gatwick is at 1:50pm?[/color] Will be a hassle. Make a break in London. [color=blue] > 4. What are some good day trips from London? We've heard about > Canterbury, Oxford, and Stratford-on-Avon.[/color] Cotswolds, Bath, Wells, Norwich, castles in Sussex etc. lg Gernot |
Re: Questions about UK Travel Part 2
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:54:40 -0700, "rvfulltime (was xenman)"
<rvfulltime@_removeme_isp.com> wrote: [color=blue] >You guys were helpfull in my last post, thanks. Now I have some more questions. > >Background... We are flying into Gatwick on April 26th and returning to the U.S. >on May 27th out of Gatwick. We're going to spend April 27 to May 15th in the >UK, mostly London with day trips to outlying areas and then 6 or 7 days in >Scotland. We'll probably choose Glasgow or Edinburgh to stay every night, >but see the other city also, and maybe some outlying areas. We've never >been to Scotland, but we spent 3 weeks in London 5 years ago and feel we >need another 10 to 14 days to finish seeing it. On May 15 we board a cruise >ship in Copenhagen which departs at 9pm for a 10 night Baltic sea journey, >returning to Copenhagen. We have yet to make transportation arrangements >to Scotland and to Copenhagen. > >Some of these questions are answered by travel guides, but the guide could >easily be out of date too. > >1. Regarding Glasgow vs Edinburgh, which city would you suggest we stay in? >We actually hope to find a furnished apartment (flat) for our stay there to avoid >having to continually search for restaurants. We're healthy and walking is >easy for us. We enjoy going to museums and parks. We're not interested >in any "nightlife". >[/color] Both cities have a lot to offer given your interests: Edinburgh is the more immediately attractive and historic city, with its castle right in the middle, and it's very walkable in the centre so long as you don't mind a lot of climbing up and down. [color=blue] >2. Train or plain? Which way to get to Scotland? We're leaning towards the >train as the flight from the U.S. will be long enough, plus in the U.S. travelling >by train is pretty rare, unless you live in one of the big eastern cities. We're >from the west. So travelling by train would be a new experience. >[/color] Train is a nice journey; if you take the GNER line (see my post in the earlier thread that you started) from York northwards there are some very fine views and you will see the best of them looking out of the east side of the train. [color=blue] >2A. If by train, do we need advance reservations like we need on a plane? >Does the fare change by how far in advance you purchase tickets, like >flying, or is the fare always the same? >[/color] You don't need advance reservations but, as with air travel, the fares are usually much cheaper if you book in advance and commit yourself to a particular train. It's best to book directly with the train operators' websites - again see my posting in the earlier thread [color=blue] >2B. Say we're travelling central London to central Edinburgh, how much longer, >door to door, does it take by train than by plane, assuming it takes longer? >[/color] Depends where in London, particularly, but about an extra 1.5 hours sounds right [color=blue] >3. I've been looking at air fares from Scotland to Copenhagen and then >back to London and thei're pretty high. So then I looked at fares from London >to Copenhagen and back and they're pretty reasonable, but they don't go >back to Gatwick. They use either London City Airport or Heathrow. Is >there good frequent transportation from these two airports to Gatwick, as my >departure out of Gatwick is at 1:50pm? >[/color] Heathrow to Gatwick is easiest done by bus - at least twice an hour, takes about an hour, but do leave some extra time just in case it gets delayed onthe motorway. London City to Gatwick is best done by bus to Canning Town station, Jubilee Line tube to London Bridge, then Thameslink train to Gatwick: this was my hunch but is also confirmed by LCY's website at [url]http://www.londoncityairport.com/transport/index.htm[/url] [color=blue] >3A. My 1999 London tube map shows LCY being served only by a rail >line. Is this still true? I've read that the tube system has been expanded >in recent years. So what's the best way to get to and from LCY? >[/color] Not the tube, but the Docklands Light Railway is opening a line directly to the airpot very soon. The Jubilee Line extension which runs to Canning Town opened just in time for the millenium so probably is marked as under construction on your 1999 map. [color=blue] >4. What are some good day trips from London? We've heard about >Canterbury, Oxford, and Stratford-on-Avon. (Allright, I've haven't done >any research on this subject >[/color] Those are all good choices - even if they follow a fairly standard itinerary; if you are interested in seeing some English countryside, somewhere like the New Forest or Suffolk would be worth a visit. York is a feasible day trip from London, but is also on your route to Scotland if you take the train from London to Edinburgh, so you might investigate stopping there on your journey north Martin |
Re: Questions about UK Travel Part 2
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:54:40 -0700, "rvfulltime (was xenman)"
<rvfulltime@_removeme_isp.com> wrote: [color=blue] >You guys were helpfull in my last post, thanks. Now I have some more questions. > >Background... We are flying into Gatwick on April 26th and returning to the U.S. >on May 27th out of Gatwick. We're going to spend April 27 to May 15th in the >UK, mostly London with day trips to outlying areas and then 6 or 7 days in >Scotland. We'll probably choose Glasgow or Edinburgh to stay every night, >but see the other city also, and maybe some outlying areas. We've never >been to Scotland, but we spent 3 weeks in London 5 years ago and feel we >need another 10 to 14 days to finish seeing it. On May 15 we board a cruise >ship in Copenhagen which departs at 9pm for a 10 night Baltic sea journey, >returning to Copenhagen. We have yet to make transportation arrangements >to Scotland and to Copenhagen. > >Some of these questions are answered by travel guides, but the guide could >easily be out of date too. > >1. Regarding Glasgow vs Edinburgh, which city would you suggest we stay in? >We actually hope to find a furnished apartment (flat) for our stay there to avoid >having to continually search for restaurants. We're healthy and walking is >easy for us. We enjoy going to museums and parks. We're not interested >in any "nightlife". >[/color] Both cities have a lot to offer given your interests: Edinburgh is the more immediately attractive and historic city, with its castle right in the middle, and it's very walkable in the centre so long as you don't mind a lot of climbing up and down. [color=blue] >2. Train or plain? Which way to get to Scotland? We're leaning towards the >train as the flight from the U.S. will be long enough, plus in the U.S. travelling >by train is pretty rare, unless you live in one of the big eastern cities. We're >from the west. So travelling by train would be a new experience. >[/color] Train is a nice journey; if you take the GNER line (see my post in the earlier thread that you started) from York northwards there are some very fine views and you will see the best of them looking out of the east side of the train. [color=blue] >2A. If by train, do we need advance reservations like we need on a plane? >Does the fare change by how far in advance you purchase tickets, like >flying, or is the fare always the same? >[/color] You don't need advance reservations but, as with air travel, the fares are usually much cheaper if you book in advance and commit yourself to a particular train. It's best to book directly with the train operators' websites - again see my posting in the earlier thread [color=blue] >2B. Say we're travelling central London to central Edinburgh, how much longer, >door to door, does it take by train than by plane, assuming it takes longer? >[/color] Depends where in London, particularly, but about an extra 1.5 hours sounds right [color=blue] >3. I've been looking at air fares from Scotland to Copenhagen and then >back to London and thei're pretty high. So then I looked at fares from London >to Copenhagen and back and they're pretty reasonable, but they don't go >back to Gatwick. They use either London City Airport or Heathrow. Is >there good frequent transportation from these two airports to Gatwick, as my >departure out of Gatwick is at 1:50pm? >[/color] Heathrow to Gatwick is easiest done by bus - at least twice an hour, takes about an hour, but do leave some extra time just in case it gets delayed onthe motorway. London City to Gatwick is best done by bus to Canning Town station, Jubilee Line tube to London Bridge, then Thameslink train to Gatwick: this was my hunch but is also confirmed by LCY's website at [url]http://www.londoncityairport.com/transport/index.htm[/url] [color=blue] >3A. My 1999 London tube map shows LCY being served only by a rail >line. Is this still true? I've read that the tube system has been expanded >in recent years. So what's the best way to get to and from LCY? >[/color] Not the tube, but the Docklands Light Railway is opening a line directly to the airpot very soon. The Jubilee Line extension which runs to Canning Town opened just in time for the millenium so probably is marked as under construction on your 1999 map. [color=blue] >4. What are some good day trips from London? We've heard about >Canterbury, Oxford, and Stratford-on-Avon. (Allright, I've haven't done >any research on this subject >[/color] Those are all good choices - even if they follow a fairly standard itinerary; if you are interested in seeing some English countryside, somewhere like the New Forest or Suffolk would be worth a visit. York is a feasible day trip from London, but is also on your route to Scotland if you take the train from London to Edinburgh, so you might investigate stopping there on your journey north Martin |
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