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  #41  
Vecchio 07-06-2014, 16.41.26
Erilar
 
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S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:[color=blue]
> On 6/6/2014 11:10 AM, Erilar wrote:
>[color=green]
>> If I ever visit the UK again, I'll use anything but LHR! I hear Manchester
>> is civilized.
>>[/color]
> I find Edinburgh and Glasgow _much_ less unpleasant than Heathrow.[/color]

The year I went to Orkney I flew to Aberdeen via Copenhagen, spent a day in
Scotland, then flew on to Kirkwall. 8-)
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  #42  
Vecchio 07-06-2014, 17.12.03
Bill
 
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On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 13:17:47 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
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> Customs are near invisible at Hull[/color]

But not passport control for foot passengers, which is pretty strict
these days, and you have to queue to get through them.
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  #43  
Vecchio 07-06-2014, 17.29.38
James Silverton
 
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On 6/7/2014 9:41 AM, Erilar wrote:[color=blue]
> S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:[color=green]
>> On 6/6/2014 11:10 AM, Erilar wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> If I ever visit the UK again, I'll use anything but LHR! I hear Manchester
>>> is civilized.
>>>[/color]
>> I find Edinburgh and Glasgow _much_ less unpleasant than Heathrow.[/color]
>
> The year I went to Orkney I flew to Aberdeen via Copenhagen, spent a day in
> Scotland, then flew on to Kirkwall. 8-)
>[/color]
Where did you start from in your Aberdeen trip? I once went to London
via Frankfurt from New York but that was not my choice but that of the
***-rate airline, which used the excuse of fog in London not to stop
there even if I was able to get an almost immediate flight from
Frankfurt to Heath Row. The carrier has gone now gone now but I think it
was World Airways.

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Extraneous "not." in Reply To.
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  #44  
Vecchio 07-06-2014, 21.36.03
Erilar
 
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James Silverton <not.jim.silverton@verizon.net> wrote:[color=blue]
> On 6/7/2014 9:41 AM, Erilar wrote:[color=green]
>> S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On 6/6/2014 11:10 AM, Erilar wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I ever visit the UK again, I'll use anything but LHR! I hear Manchester
>>>> is civilized.
>>>>
>>> I find Edinburgh and Glasgow _much_ less unpleasant than Heathrow.[/color]
>>
>> The year I went to Orkney I flew to Aberdeen via Copenhagen, spent a day in
>> Scotland, then flew on to Kirkwall. 8-)
>>[/color]
> Where did you start from in your Aberdeen trip? I once went to London via
> Frankfurt from New York but that was not my choice but that of the
> ***-rate airline, which used the excuse of fog in London not to stop
> there even if I was able to get an almost immediate flight from Frankfurt
> to Heath Row. The carrier has gone now gone now but I think it was World Airways.[/color]
SAS from Chicago to Copenhagen, then Aberdeen.


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  #45  
Vecchio 08-06-2014, 00.40.15
Martin
 
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On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 13:59:54 +0100, Mike O'Sullivan <mikeos3@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On 07/06/2014 12:17, Martin wrote:[color=green]
>> On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 11:15:30 +0100, "JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I have travelled into Newcastle airport many times, connecting at Schiphol,
>>> and I know that the security at the arrival airport isn't all visible. All
>>> luggage is scanned before being placed on the delivery carousel and passport
>>> examination nowadays is quite rigorous. Passengers originating in Amsterdam
>>> tend to get more attention from the UK Border Agency than do transfer
>>> passengers.[/color]
>>
>> Duh I was talking about travelling to Newcastle by ferry from IJmuiden. I
>> assumed that Mike was too.[/color]
>
>No, Schipol to Gatwick.[/color]

I mixed up the OP, it was Frank. Sorry, Mike.
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  #46  
Vecchio 08-06-2014, 01.08.39
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On 07/06/2014 22:40, Martin wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 13:59:54 +0100, Mike O'Sullivan <mikeos3@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On 07/06/2014 12:17, Martin wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 11:15:30 +0100, "JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have travelled into Newcastle airport many times, connecting at Schiphol,
>>>> and I know that the security at the arrival airport isn't all visible. All
>>>> luggage is scanned before being placed on the delivery carousel and passport
>>>> examination nowadays is quite rigorous. Passengers originating in Amsterdam
>>>> tend to get more attention from the UK Border Agency than do transfer
>>>> passengers.
>>>
>>> Duh I was talking about travelling to Newcastle by ferry from IJmuiden. I
>>> assumed that Mike was too.[/color]
>>
>> No, Schipol to Gatwick.[/color]
>
> I mixed up the OP, it was Frank. Sorry, Mike.
>[/color]

Geen probleem!
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  #47  
Vecchio 08-06-2014, 09.42.52
Martin
 
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On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 13:41:24 +0000 (UTC), Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Bill <blackusenet@gmail.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 15:10:27 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
>> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Friday, June 6, 2014 8:45:21 AM UTC+1, Tim C. wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:34:26 +0200, Martin wrote in post :
>>>>>
>>>>> <news:m1e0p9lj8jmm1t7qrkf6un13p5ppurgje1@4ax.com> :
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The queues aren't unique to the
>>>>>
>>>>>> USA. We took a charter flight from Schiphol where queues extended outside the
>>>>>
>>>>>> airport building, in this case there were not enough check in staff.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying to get through Passport control at Stansted is a pain.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim C. Linz, Austria.
>>>>
>>>> We use smaller provincial airports wherever possible these days, such as
>>>> Southampton - they often have extensive itineraries and queues are
>>>> virtually non-existent!
>>>
>>> If I ever visit the UK again, I'll use anything but LHR! I hear Manchester
>>> is civilized.[/color]
>>
>> Heathrow is a lot better these days, especially if you fly with BA
>> and use terminal 5...
>>[/color]
>
>BA is now tops on my „avoid at all costs" list. They mucked up the return
>half of an e- ticket, changing both my name and my *** and it took several
>people and altogether too much time to deal with. Airline ticket always
>smash my double last name together, but some idiot took it apart and
>deleted my first name so my eticket was in their computer with a male name.
> This was the RETURN half! I was still grumbling about it when I went
>through pass control at O'Hare, and the official there laughed and said BA
>fouled things up often![/color]

You are still grumbling about it now. I often travelled with BA, I never had a
problem, but then again I've never had a problem with the French either.
Have you considered that there may be a French led world conspiracy against you?
:-)

Are you going to tell us about your trip to Stonehenge?
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> Manchester is nice, clean but busy with holiday charters. So it gets
>> noisy and full of people.
>>
>> The best provincial airport we've flown from is Leeds/Bradford.[/color][/color]

One of the worst to land at in a storm. See youtube for examples.
[color=blue][color=green]
>> BA have a Heathrow shuttle flying into there several times a day.[/color]
>BA? Horrors[/color]

Rubbish. One messed up ticket doesn't make an airline a horror.
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  #48  
Vecchio 08-06-2014, 10.43.02
Martin
 
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On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 13:41:24 +0000 (UTC), Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Bill <blackusenet@gmail.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 15:10:27 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
>> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Friday, June 6, 2014 8:45:21 AM UTC+1, Tim C. wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:34:26 +0200, Martin wrote in post :
>>>>>
>>>>> <news:m1e0p9lj8jmm1t7qrkf6un13p5ppurgje1@4ax.com> :
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The queues aren't unique to the
>>>>>
>>>>>> USA. We took a charter flight from Schiphol where queues extended outside the
>>>>>
>>>>>> airport building, in this case there were not enough check in staff.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying to get through Passport control at Stansted is a pain.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim C. Linz, Austria.
>>>>
>>>> We use smaller provincial airports wherever possible these days, such as
>>>> Southampton - they often have extensive itineraries and queues are
>>>> virtually non-existent!
>>>
>>> If I ever visit the UK again, I'll use anything but LHR! I hear Manchester
>>> is civilized.[/color]
>>
>> Heathrow is a lot better these days, especially if you fly with BA
>> and use terminal 5...
>>[/color]
>
>BA is now tops on my „avoid at all costs" list. They mucked up the return
>half of an e- ticket, changing both my name and my *** and it took several
>people and altogether too much time to deal with. Airline ticket always
>smash my double last name together, but some idiot took it apart and
>deleted my first name so my eticket was in their computer with a male name.
> This was the RETURN half! I was still grumbling about it when I went
>through pass control at O'Hare, and the official there laughed and said BA
>fouled things up often!
>[color=green]
>> Manchester is nice, clean but busy with holiday charters. So it gets
>> noisy and full of people.
>>
>> The best provincial airport we've flown from is Leeds/Bradford.
>>
>> BA have a Heathrow shuttle flying into there several times a day.[/color]
>BA? Horrors[/color]

There was a time when dead BA passengers were moved to first class. "they used
years ago to prop up dead passengers "with a vodka and tonic, copy of the Daily
Mail, eyeshades. We don't do that now."
--

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  #49  
Vecchio 08-06-2014, 11.30.02
JohnT
 
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"Erilar" <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote in message
news:lmv4q4$1a7$1@dont-email.me...[color=blue]
> Bill <blackusenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> BA is now tops on my „avoid at all costs" list. They mucked up the return
> half of an e- ticket, changing both my name and my *** and it took several
> people and altogether too much time to deal with. Airline ticket always
> smash my double last name together, but some idiot took it apart and
> deleted my first name so my eticket was in their computer with a male
> name.
> This was the RETURN half! I was still grumbling about it when I went
> through pass control at O'Hare, and the official there laughed and said BA
> fouled things up often!
>[color=green]
>> Manchester is nice, clean but busy with holiday charters. So it gets
>> noisy and full of people.
>>
>> The best provincial airport we've flown from is Leeds/Bradford.
>>
>> BA have a Heathrow shuttle flying into there several times a day.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> BA? Horrors[/color]

I flew BA, long and short haul, at least 500 times and they got it
spectacularly wrong twice. Which isn't a bad record. And they tried really
hard to sort out problems when they did arise.

I find it very difficult to comprehend how the RETURN half of an e-ticket
can be "mucked up". An e-ticket is just a record on a computer system -
Amadeus in the case of BA - and it has no physical existence. It doesn't
have two halfs.

Perhaps Erilar should try a few flights on Spirit Airlines in the USA or on
Ryanair in Europe. She may then have some benchmark for comparison.


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Vecchio 08-06-2014, 11.53.13
Martin
 
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On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 09:30:02 +0100, "JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>"Erilar" <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote in message
>news:lmv4q4$1a7$1@dont-email.me...[color=green]
>> Bill <blackusenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> BA is now tops on my „avoid at all costs" list. They mucked up the return
>> half of an e- ticket, changing both my name and my *** and it took several
>> people and altogether too much time to deal with. Airline ticket always
>> smash my double last name together, but some idiot took it apart and
>> deleted my first name so my eticket was in their computer with a male
>> name.
>> This was the RETURN half! I was still grumbling about it when I went
>> through pass control at O'Hare, and the official there laughed and said BA
>> fouled things up often!
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Manchester is nice, clean but busy with holiday charters. So it gets
>>> noisy and full of people.
>>>
>>> The best provincial airport we've flown from is Leeds/Bradford.
>>>
>>> BA have a Heathrow shuttle flying into there several times a day.[/color][/color]
>[color=green]
>> BA? Horrors[/color]
>
>I flew BA, long and short haul, at least 500 times and they got it
>spectacularly wrong twice. Which isn't a bad record. And they tried really
>hard to sort out problems when they did arise.[/color]

Once when a flight from Toulouse was late arriving in UK, because of air traffic
control problems, they sent a car out to the plane as soon as the plane had
stopped moving and drove me directly me to my connecting flight to Amsterdam,
which was waiting for me.
[color=blue]
>
>I find it very difficult to comprehend how the RETURN half of an e-ticket
>can be "mucked up". An e-ticket is just a record on a computer system -
>Amadeus in the case of BA - and it has no physical existence. It doesn't
>have two halfs.[/color]

I also couldn't understand how it was possible.
[color=blue]
>
>Perhaps Erilar should try a few flights on Spirit Airlines in the USA or on
>Ryanair in Europe. She may then have some benchmark for comparison.[/color]

or even worse KLM on a bad day.
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