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Vecchio 10-03-2014, 19.04.40
thelatecapitalist@gmail.com
 
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Hi. I am planning to land at Heathrow in early June and have five days to kill and instead of doing the usual in London, I was thinking of taking a train to Devon, rent a car in Devon, staying for three or so days and then heading out to spend a night on the Isles of Scilly. Then drive back to Devon, and train back to into London, where we are meeting friends.

Some questions:

1. Doable? Enjoyable? Looking for relaxing, quaint town, good food.

2. If not, other alternatives?

3. Suggestions for places to stay, train and rental car tips?

4. Food tips?

Thanks in advance.

NR
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Vecchio 10-03-2014, 20.54.56
tim.....
 
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Hi. I am planning to land at Heathrow in early June and have five days to
kill and instead of doing the usual in London, I was thinking of taking a
train to Devon, rent a car in Devon, staying for three or so days and then
heading out to spend a night on the Isles of Scilly. Then drive back to
Devon, and train back to into London, where we are meeting friends.

Some questions:

1. Doable? Enjoyable? Looking for relaxing, quaint town, good food.

2. If not, other alternatives?

3. Suggestions for places to stay, train and rental car tips?

4. Food tips?

Thanks in advance.

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It's too far to go in 5 days to be relaxing.

If you want relaxing and quaint within the time available I suggest the
Norfolk/Suffolk coasts (avoiding the larger resorts)

tim





NR

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Vecchio 10-03-2014, 22.31.43
Graham Harrison
 
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"tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bo6g41Fl8bvU1@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
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> wrote in message
> news:189fd545-f081-496d-8a79-339623c938d3@googlegroups.com...
>
> Hi. I am planning to land at Heathrow in early June and have five days to
> kill and instead of doing the usual in London, I was thinking of taking a
> train to Devon, rent a car in Devon, staying for three or so days and then
> heading out to spend a night on the Isles of Scilly. Then drive back to
> Devon, and train back to into London, where we are meeting friends.
>
> Some questions:
>
> 1. Doable? Enjoyable? Looking for relaxing, quaint town, good food.
>
> 2. If not, other alternatives?
>
> 3. Suggestions for places to stay, train and rental car tips?
>
> 4. Food tips?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> It's too far to go in 5 days to be relaxing.
>
> If you want relaxing and quaint within the time available I suggest the
> Norfolk/Suffolk coasts (avoiding the larger resorts)
>
> tim
>
>
>
>
>
> NR[/color]

Not sure I totally agree. I think the plan needs modification. I'd get
the bus from Heathrow to Reading and then the train to Penzance. Spend
night 1 in Penzance and then go to Scilly for night 2. Come back to the
mainland early and hire the car. Not sure what the actual times are but
rather come back to Penzance I'd look at flying back to Newquay or even
Exeter
[url]http://www.islesofscilly-travel.co.uk/timetables/flights-to-scilly-isles-skybus/[/url].
My preference would be pick the car up at Newquay and drive along the north
coast (possible stops include Port Isaac, Boscastle, Tintagel, Bude,
Hartland, Colvelly) as far as Barnstaple or Bideford (night 3). Then head
due south (past the RHS Rosemoor Garden near Torrington) to Okehampton and
(if time allowed) on to Tavistock and over Dartmoor (a slow road) to drop
the car and spend the night in Exeter on evening 4 whence train to London on
day 5. Europcar have offices at Newquay airport and offer a meet and greet
service at Exeter St Davids station.

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Vecchio 11-03-2014, 00.36.43
thelatecapitalist@gmail.com
 
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So, basically skip Devon and head from Heathrow to Newquay (Train? Plane? Possible?), get a car, tool around the end of Cornwall, spend a night there,ditch the car, then ferry over to Scilly, spend two nights there and then ferry back and well, what's the best way back to London, So Kensington?

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> > It's too far to go in 5 days to be relaxing.[/color]
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>
> Not sure I totally agree. I think the plan needs modification. I'd get
>
> the bus from Heathrow to Reading and then the train to Penzance. Spend
>
> night 1 in Penzance and then go to Scilly for night 2. Come back to the
>
> mainland early and hire the car. Not sure what the actual times are but
>
> rather come back to Penzance I'd look at flying back to Newquay or even
>
> Exeter
>
> [url]http://www.islesofscilly-travel.co.uk/timetables/flights-to-scilly-isles-skybus/[/url].
>
> My preference would be pick the car up at Newquay and drive along the north
>
> coast (possible stops include Port Isaac, Boscastle, Tintagel, Bude,
>
> Hartland, Colvelly) as far as Barnstaple or Bideford (night 3). Then head
>
> due south (past the RHS Rosemoor Garden near Torrington) to Okehampton and
>
> (if time allowed) on to Tavistock and over Dartmoor (a slow road) to drop
>
> the car and spend the night in Exeter on evening 4 whence train to Londonon
>
> day 5. Europcar have offices at Newquay airport and offer a meet and greet
>
> service at Exeter St Davids station.[/color]

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Vecchio 11-03-2014, 14.01.51
Jack Campin
 
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> So, basically skip Devon and head from Heathrow to Newquay[color=blue]
> (Train? Plane? Possible?), get a car, tool around the end
> of Cornwall, spend a night there, ditch the car, then ferry
> over to Scilly, spend two nights there and then ferry back
> and well, what's the best way back to London, So Kensington?[/color]

Do you realize what driving round Cornwall is like?

(Imagine the skeleton bobsled event from Sochi, only with high
stone walls on each side).

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Vecchio 11-03-2014, 14.29.27
Martin
 
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:01:51 +0000, Jack Campin <bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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>> So, basically skip Devon and head from Heathrow to Newquay
>> (Train? Plane? Possible?), get a car, tool around the end
>> of Cornwall, spend a night there, ditch the car, then ferry
>> over to Scilly, spend two nights there and then ferry back
>> and well, what's the best way back to London, So Kensington?[/color]
>
>Do you realize what driving round Cornwall is like?
>
>(Imagine the skeleton bobsled event from Sochi, only with high
>stone walls on each side).[/color]

and locals hurtling towards you.

I once travelled from near London to Porthcurno as a pillion rider on a
motorbike. A tight bend and a dry stone wall between Penzance and Porthcurno
resulted in us and the m/bike ending up in a soggy ploughed field. No injuries
or damage done but a bit of a shock at the time.
The suggested train from Heathrow via Reading to Penzance and the Scillonian to
St Marys is probably the easiest route fir somebody who has just arrived from
the USA. This assumes that you will be able to travel west of Dawlish by train
and that trains run at a suitable time.

The local newspaper is here [url]http://www.scillytoday.com/[/url]
and
Tourist office [url]http://www.simplyscilly.co.uk/[/url]
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

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Vecchio 11-03-2014, 16.10.23
Martin
 
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:29:27 +0100, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
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>On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:01:51 +0000, Jack Campin <bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> So, basically skip Devon and head from Heathrow to Newquay
>>> (Train? Plane? Possible?), get a car, tool around the end
>>> of Cornwall, spend a night there, ditch the car, then ferry
>>> over to Scilly, spend two nights there and then ferry back
>>> and well, what's the best way back to London, So Kensington?[/color]
>>
>>Do you realize what driving round Cornwall is like?
>>
>>(Imagine the skeleton bobsled event from Sochi, only with high
>>stone walls on each side).[/color]
>
>and locals hurtling towards you.
>
>I once travelled from near London to Porthcurno as a pillion rider on a
>motorbike. A tight bend and a dry stone wall between Penzance and Porthcurno
>resulted in us and the m/bike ending up in a soggy ploughed field. No injuries
>or damage done but a bit of a shock at the time.
>The suggested train from Heathrow via Reading to Penzance and the Scillonian to
>St Marys is probably the easiest route fir somebody who has just arrived from
>the USA. This assumes that you will be able to travel west of Dawlish by train
>and that trains run at a suitable time.
>
>The local newspaper is here [url]http://www.scillytoday.com/[/url]
>and
>Tourist office [url]http://www.simplyscilly.co.uk/[/url][/color]

and from somebody who regularly visits the Isles of Scilly

"After 4th April, the train lines are supposed to be open again so he can take
the Heathrow Express to Paddington and go from Paddington to Newquay and then
fly to St Mary’s on Skybus. He can fly from Gatwick to Newquay with Flybe and
swap planes to a Skybus to St Mary. He can fly from Gatwick to Exeter with
Flybe, swap to Skybus and go direct to St Mary. There are also flights from
Lands End with Skybus. There are no flights on a Sunday and I don’t think the
Scillonian operates on Sunday, either. No Sunday papers in Scilly!
[url]http://www.flybe.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.islesofscilly-travel.co.uk/timetables/flights-to-scilly-isles-skybus/[/url]

He can go from Paddington to Penzance and take the Scillonian boat trip. Or he
can drive down to Newquay, or Penzance, which is a helluva long drive! If he’s
going to Tresco or Bryher, they have their own boats which pick you up in St
Mary and do the transfer. If he’s going to St Martin there’s a boat taxi
service but we’ve never used it, so he’d have to look it up online.

All rather depends on how much time he has available. A flight and overnight
stay in Exeter or Newquay might work better for him, if he’s got to cross from
Heathrow to Gatwick. Or he could go by train from Paddington to Exeter and then
fly to St Mary.!"

Reading to Penzance by train takes about 5 hours.


--
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Martin in Zuid Holland

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Vecchio 12-03-2014, 10.40.29
Mark Brader
 
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> Hi. I am planning to land at Heathrow in early June and have five days[color=blue]
> to kill and instead of doing the usual in London, I was thinking of
> taking a train to Devon, rent a car in Devon, staying for three or so
> days and then heading out to spend a night on the Isles of Scilly. Then
> drive back to Devon, and train back to into London, where we are meeting
> friends.
>
> Some questions:
>
> 1. Doable? Enjoyable? Looking for relaxing, quaint town, good food.[/color]

Sure. Well, I'd be inclined to skip the Scilly Isles as not interesting
enough to be worth the trouble of getting there.

Note that you have two main choices of where in Devon to switch between
train and car: there's Exeter, and there's Plymouth, which is on the
boundary with Cornwall.

Also note that trains are currently not running through to Plymouth:
one of the most scenic bits of the railway, where it runs right along
the seashore (at Dawlish), was washed out by a major storm last month
and the repairs aren't complete yet. They're expecting to have it back
in service in early April, though, so it should be fine when you go.
--
Mark Brader | "Opening a monitor case is not for the inexperienced
Toronto | or the faint of heart, unless you need
[email]msb@vex.net[/email] | defibrillation." -- Kevin D. Swan

My text in this article is in the public domain.
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Vecchio 12-03-2014, 11.43.24
Martin
 
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 03:40:29 -0500, [email]msb@vex.net[/email] (Mark Brader) wrote:
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>> Hi. I am planning to land at Heathrow in early June and have five days
>> to kill and instead of doing the usual in London, I was thinking of
>> taking a train to Devon, rent a car in Devon, staying for three or so
>> days and then heading out to spend a night on the Isles of Scilly. Then
>> drive back to Devon, and train back to into London, where we are meeting
>> friends.
>>
>> Some questions:
>>
>> 1. Doable? Enjoyable? Looking for relaxing, quaint town, good food.[/color]
>
>Sure. Well, I'd be inclined to skip the Scilly Isles as not interesting
>enough to be worth the trouble of getting there.[/color]

Have you been to the Scilly Isles? I'd go.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

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Vecchio 12-03-2014, 12.32.32
Surreyman
 
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On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:43:24 AM UTC, Martin wrote:[color=blue]
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 03:40:29 -0500, [email]msb@vex.net[/email] (Mark Brader) wrote:
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> >> Hi. I am planning to land at Heathrow in early June and have five days[/color][/color]
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> >> to kill and instead of doing the usual in London, I was thinking of[/color][/color]
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> >> taking a train to Devon, rent a car in Devon, staying for three or so[/color][/color]
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> >> days and then heading out to spend a night on the Isles of Scilly. Then[/color][/color]
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> >> drive back to Devon, and train back to into London, where we are meeting[/color][/color]
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> >> friends.[/color][/color]
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> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Some questions:[/color][/color]
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> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> 1. Doable? Enjoyable? Looking for relaxing, quaint town, good food.[/color][/color]
>[color=green]
> >[/color]
>[color=green]
> >Sure. Well, I'd be inclined to skip the Scilly Isles as not interesting[/color]
>[color=green]
> >enough to be worth the trouble of getting there.[/color]
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> Have you been to the Scilly Isles? I'd go.
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> Martin in Zuid Holland[/color]

Beautiful, certainly.
But I'd absolutely take all the flying options re the time available. Scilly deserves more than a day trip.
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