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On Jun 3, 6:25*am, Dan Stephenson <stephedanos...@mac.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello, I intend to revisit Greece again and again. *The last time I
> visited I bought a thick spiral-bound tourist and motoring atlas at a
> gas station, and it had a good many ancient archeological sights on it.
>
> However, I noticed all the time, in the course of driving through the
> countryside, signs to many sites that were not cited in the atlas. *I
> picked up a book on the ancient sites of the Peloponnese while I was
> there and it helped but I'm looking for something comprehensive. *
> Something like Ordinance Survey maps in the UK that list ever little
> stone circle and burial mound.
>
> My plan is to read Pausanias' _Descriptions of Greece_ that I just
> ordered on-line, and see about visiting some of the more obscure
> places, as if I were walking in his footsteps. *My next specific trip
> to Greece will focus on time at Monemvasia, again, but I want some side
> trips. *I read an on-line snippet from Pausanias, where he describes
> the site just north of Monemvasia, Epidaurus Limera. *I remember seeing
> this place from the road but was foot-sore at the time and did not
> visit it. *I read in the on-line text of Pausanias, how if you
> travelled north from there by a certain distance you come across the
> site of Limenas, and how it has a nice harbor and a temple, etc etc. *
> And I did indeed on Day 68 of my big trip, visit the little village
> with the nice harbor, but at the time could not find access to the
> ancient site past some people's property. *And yet, Pausanius further
> describes additional sites even farther north, relating cool
> mythological facts about those sites -- and I cannot find them in my
> motoring atlas! *Nor in Google Maps. *Finding THOSE kinds of obscure
> places is what I'm after.
>
> Does anyone know an ultimate mapping sources for Greece, something that
> will have all these places?
>
> I really feel I connect with history when I visit the ancient places. *Thanks,
>
> --
> Dan Stephensonhttp://web.mac.com/stepheda
> Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too)[/color]

In Germany I use the 1:150000 scale Shell maps which for around
Stuttgart where I live show over 4000 places of interest to a tourist
of all types, and the places are accurately rated. Unfortunately,
they quit publishing these maps a few years ago, but you may be able
to find similar maps for Greece that will show ALL rural roads and
places of interest. A good large bookstore (probably in Athens) is a
good place to look for such maps as they should have a selection of
most of them that are available, and you can examine them to see which
ones best meet your interests.

My favorite times in Greece were actually driving through the
countryside searching for some of these obscure sites with poor out of
date maps. Usually an excellent time whether we were successful or
not as the drives through some unpopulated areas can be excellent in
themselves.

George
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  #122  
Vecchio 05-06-2011, 09.30.47
george
 
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On Jun 3, 6:25*am, Dan Stephenson <stephedanos...@mac.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello, I intend to revisit Greece again and again. *The last time I
> visited I bought a thick spiral-bound tourist and motoring atlas at a
> gas station, and it had a good many ancient archeological sights on it.
>
> However, I noticed all the time, in the course of driving through the
> countryside, signs to many sites that were not cited in the atlas. *I
> picked up a book on the ancient sites of the Peloponnese while I was
> there and it helped but I'm looking for something comprehensive. *
> Something like Ordinance Survey maps in the UK that list ever little
> stone circle and burial mound.
>
> My plan is to read Pausanias' _Descriptions of Greece_ that I just
> ordered on-line, and see about visiting some of the more obscure
> places, as if I were walking in his footsteps. *My next specific trip
> to Greece will focus on time at Monemvasia, again, but I want some side
> trips. *I read an on-line snippet from Pausanias, where he describes
> the site just north of Monemvasia, Epidaurus Limera. *I remember seeing
> this place from the road but was foot-sore at the time and did not
> visit it. *I read in the on-line text of Pausanias, how if you
> travelled north from there by a certain distance you come across the
> site of Limenas, and how it has a nice harbor and a temple, etc etc. *
> And I did indeed on Day 68 of my big trip, visit the little village
> with the nice harbor, but at the time could not find access to the
> ancient site past some people's property. *And yet, Pausanius further
> describes additional sites even farther north, relating cool
> mythological facts about those sites -- and I cannot find them in my
> motoring atlas! *Nor in Google Maps. *Finding THOSE kinds of obscure
> places is what I'm after.
>
> Does anyone know an ultimate mapping sources for Greece, something that
> will have all these places?
>
> I really feel I connect with history when I visit the ancient places. *Thanks,
>
> --
> Dan Stephensonhttp://web.mac.com/stepheda
> Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too)[/color]

In Germany I use the 1:150000 scale Shell maps which for around
Stuttgart where I live show over 4000 places of interest to a tourist
of all types, and the places are accurately rated. Unfortunately,
they quit publishing these maps a few years ago, but you may be able
to find similar maps for Greece that will show ALL rural roads and
places of interest. A good large bookstore (probably in Athens) is a
good place to look for such maps as they should have a selection of
most of them that are available, and you can examine them to see which
ones best meet your interests.

My favorite times in Greece were actually driving through the
countryside searching for some of these obscure sites with poor out of
date maps. Usually an excellent time whether we were successful or
not as the drives through some unpopulated areas can be excellent in
themselves.

George
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  #123  
Vecchio 05-06-2011, 09.30.47
george
 
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On Jun 3, 6:25*am, Dan Stephenson <stephedanos...@mac.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello, I intend to revisit Greece again and again. *The last time I
> visited I bought a thick spiral-bound tourist and motoring atlas at a
> gas station, and it had a good many ancient archeological sights on it.
>
> However, I noticed all the time, in the course of driving through the
> countryside, signs to many sites that were not cited in the atlas. *I
> picked up a book on the ancient sites of the Peloponnese while I was
> there and it helped but I'm looking for something comprehensive. *
> Something like Ordinance Survey maps in the UK that list ever little
> stone circle and burial mound.
>
> My plan is to read Pausanias' _Descriptions of Greece_ that I just
> ordered on-line, and see about visiting some of the more obscure
> places, as if I were walking in his footsteps. *My next specific trip
> to Greece will focus on time at Monemvasia, again, but I want some side
> trips. *I read an on-line snippet from Pausanias, where he describes
> the site just north of Monemvasia, Epidaurus Limera. *I remember seeing
> this place from the road but was foot-sore at the time and did not
> visit it. *I read in the on-line text of Pausanias, how if you
> travelled north from there by a certain distance you come across the
> site of Limenas, and how it has a nice harbor and a temple, etc etc. *
> And I did indeed on Day 68 of my big trip, visit the little village
> with the nice harbor, but at the time could not find access to the
> ancient site past some people's property. *And yet, Pausanius further
> describes additional sites even farther north, relating cool
> mythological facts about those sites -- and I cannot find them in my
> motoring atlas! *Nor in Google Maps. *Finding THOSE kinds of obscure
> places is what I'm after.
>
> Does anyone know an ultimate mapping sources for Greece, something that
> will have all these places?
>
> I really feel I connect with history when I visit the ancient places. *Thanks,
>
> --
> Dan Stephensonhttp://web.mac.com/stepheda
> Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too)[/color]

In Germany I use the 1:150000 scale Shell maps which for around
Stuttgart where I live show over 4000 places of interest to a tourist
of all types, and the places are accurately rated. Unfortunately,
they quit publishing these maps a few years ago, but you may be able
to find similar maps for Greece that will show ALL rural roads and
places of interest. A good large bookstore (probably in Athens) is a
good place to look for such maps as they should have a selection of
most of them that are available, and you can examine them to see which
ones best meet your interests.

My favorite times in Greece were actually driving through the
countryside searching for some of these obscure sites with poor out of
date maps. Usually an excellent time whether we were successful or
not as the drives through some unpopulated areas can be excellent in
themselves.

George
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  #124  
Vecchio 05-06-2011, 09.30.47
george
 
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On Jun 3, 6:25*am, Dan Stephenson <stephedanos...@mac.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello, I intend to revisit Greece again and again. *The last time I
> visited I bought a thick spiral-bound tourist and motoring atlas at a
> gas station, and it had a good many ancient archeological sights on it.
>
> However, I noticed all the time, in the course of driving through the
> countryside, signs to many sites that were not cited in the atlas. *I
> picked up a book on the ancient sites of the Peloponnese while I was
> there and it helped but I'm looking for something comprehensive. *
> Something like Ordinance Survey maps in the UK that list ever little
> stone circle and burial mound.
>
> My plan is to read Pausanias' _Descriptions of Greece_ that I just
> ordered on-line, and see about visiting some of the more obscure
> places, as if I were walking in his footsteps. *My next specific trip
> to Greece will focus on time at Monemvasia, again, but I want some side
> trips. *I read an on-line snippet from Pausanias, where he describes
> the site just north of Monemvasia, Epidaurus Limera. *I remember seeing
> this place from the road but was foot-sore at the time and did not
> visit it. *I read in the on-line text of Pausanias, how if you
> travelled north from there by a certain distance you come across the
> site of Limenas, and how it has a nice harbor and a temple, etc etc. *
> And I did indeed on Day 68 of my big trip, visit the little village
> with the nice harbor, but at the time could not find access to the
> ancient site past some people's property. *And yet, Pausanius further
> describes additional sites even farther north, relating cool
> mythological facts about those sites -- and I cannot find them in my
> motoring atlas! *Nor in Google Maps. *Finding THOSE kinds of obscure
> places is what I'm after.
>
> Does anyone know an ultimate mapping sources for Greece, something that
> will have all these places?
>
> I really feel I connect with history when I visit the ancient places. *Thanks,
>
> --
> Dan Stephensonhttp://web.mac.com/stepheda
> Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too)[/color]

In Germany I use the 1:150000 scale Shell maps which for around
Stuttgart where I live show over 4000 places of interest to a tourist
of all types, and the places are accurately rated. Unfortunately,
they quit publishing these maps a few years ago, but you may be able
to find similar maps for Greece that will show ALL rural roads and
places of interest. A good large bookstore (probably in Athens) is a
good place to look for such maps as they should have a selection of
most of them that are available, and you can examine them to see which
ones best meet your interests.

My favorite times in Greece were actually driving through the
countryside searching for some of these obscure sites with poor out of
date maps. Usually an excellent time whether we were successful or
not as the drives through some unpopulated areas can be excellent in
themselves.

George
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  #125  
Vecchio 05-06-2011, 09.30.47
george
 
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On Jun 3, 6:25*am, Dan Stephenson <stephedanos...@mac.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello, I intend to revisit Greece again and again. *The last time I
> visited I bought a thick spiral-bound tourist and motoring atlas at a
> gas station, and it had a good many ancient archeological sights on it.
>
> However, I noticed all the time, in the course of driving through the
> countryside, signs to many sites that were not cited in the atlas. *I
> picked up a book on the ancient sites of the Peloponnese while I was
> there and it helped but I'm looking for something comprehensive. *
> Something like Ordinance Survey maps in the UK that list ever little
> stone circle and burial mound.
>
> My plan is to read Pausanias' _Descriptions of Greece_ that I just
> ordered on-line, and see about visiting some of the more obscure
> places, as if I were walking in his footsteps. *My next specific trip
> to Greece will focus on time at Monemvasia, again, but I want some side
> trips. *I read an on-line snippet from Pausanias, where he describes
> the site just north of Monemvasia, Epidaurus Limera. *I remember seeing
> this place from the road but was foot-sore at the time and did not
> visit it. *I read in the on-line text of Pausanias, how if you
> travelled north from there by a certain distance you come across the
> site of Limenas, and how it has a nice harbor and a temple, etc etc. *
> And I did indeed on Day 68 of my big trip, visit the little village
> with the nice harbor, but at the time could not find access to the
> ancient site past some people's property. *And yet, Pausanius further
> describes additional sites even farther north, relating cool
> mythological facts about those sites -- and I cannot find them in my
> motoring atlas! *Nor in Google Maps. *Finding THOSE kinds of obscure
> places is what I'm after.
>
> Does anyone know an ultimate mapping sources for Greece, something that
> will have all these places?
>
> I really feel I connect with history when I visit the ancient places. *Thanks,
>
> --
> Dan Stephensonhttp://web.mac.com/stepheda
> Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too)[/color]

In Germany I use the 1:150000 scale Shell maps which for around
Stuttgart where I live show over 4000 places of interest to a tourist
of all types, and the places are accurately rated. Unfortunately,
they quit publishing these maps a few years ago, but you may be able
to find similar maps for Greece that will show ALL rural roads and
places of interest. A good large bookstore (probably in Athens) is a
good place to look for such maps as they should have a selection of
most of them that are available, and you can examine them to see which
ones best meet your interests.

My favorite times in Greece were actually driving through the
countryside searching for some of these obscure sites with poor out of
date maps. Usually an excellent time whether we were successful or
not as the drives through some unpopulated areas can be excellent in
themselves.

George
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  #126  
Vecchio 05-06-2011, 09.30.47
george
 
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On Jun 3, 6:25*am, Dan Stephenson <stephedanos...@mac.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello, I intend to revisit Greece again and again. *The last time I
> visited I bought a thick spiral-bound tourist and motoring atlas at a
> gas station, and it had a good many ancient archeological sights on it.
>
> However, I noticed all the time, in the course of driving through the
> countryside, signs to many sites that were not cited in the atlas. *I
> picked up a book on the ancient sites of the Peloponnese while I was
> there and it helped but I'm looking for something comprehensive. *
> Something like Ordinance Survey maps in the UK that list ever little
> stone circle and burial mound.
>
> My plan is to read Pausanias' _Descriptions of Greece_ that I just
> ordered on-line, and see about visiting some of the more obscure
> places, as if I were walking in his footsteps. *My next specific trip
> to Greece will focus on time at Monemvasia, again, but I want some side
> trips. *I read an on-line snippet from Pausanias, where he describes
> the site just north of Monemvasia, Epidaurus Limera. *I remember seeing
> this place from the road but was foot-sore at the time and did not
> visit it. *I read in the on-line text of Pausanias, how if you
> travelled north from there by a certain distance you come across the
> site of Limenas, and how it has a nice harbor and a temple, etc etc. *
> And I did indeed on Day 68 of my big trip, visit the little village
> with the nice harbor, but at the time could not find access to the
> ancient site past some people's property. *And yet, Pausanius further
> describes additional sites even farther north, relating cool
> mythological facts about those sites -- and I cannot find them in my
> motoring atlas! *Nor in Google Maps. *Finding THOSE kinds of obscure
> places is what I'm after.
>
> Does anyone know an ultimate mapping sources for Greece, something that
> will have all these places?
>
> I really feel I connect with history when I visit the ancient places. *Thanks,
>
> --
> Dan Stephensonhttp://web.mac.com/stepheda
> Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too)[/color]

In Germany I use the 1:150000 scale Shell maps which for around
Stuttgart where I live show over 4000 places of interest to a tourist
of all types, and the places are accurately rated. Unfortunately,
they quit publishing these maps a few years ago, but you may be able
to find similar maps for Greece that will show ALL rural roads and
places of interest. A good large bookstore (probably in Athens) is a
good place to look for such maps as they should have a selection of
most of them that are available, and you can examine them to see which
ones best meet your interests.

My favorite times in Greece were actually driving through the
countryside searching for some of these obscure sites with poor out of
date maps. Usually an excellent time whether we were successful or
not as the drives through some unpopulated areas can be excellent in
themselves.

George
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Vecchio 05-06-2011, 09.30.47
george
 
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On Jun 3, 6:25*am, Dan Stephenson <stephedanos...@mac.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello, I intend to revisit Greece again and again. *The last time I
> visited I bought a thick spiral-bound tourist and motoring atlas at a
> gas station, and it had a good many ancient archeological sights on it.
>
> However, I noticed all the time, in the course of driving through the
> countryside, signs to many sites that were not cited in the atlas. *I
> picked up a book on the ancient sites of the Peloponnese while I was
> there and it helped but I'm looking for something comprehensive. *
> Something like Ordinance Survey maps in the UK that list ever little
> stone circle and burial mound.
>
> My plan is to read Pausanias' _Descriptions of Greece_ that I just
> ordered on-line, and see about visiting some of the more obscure
> places, as if I were walking in his footsteps. *My next specific trip
> to Greece will focus on time at Monemvasia, again, but I want some side
> trips. *I read an on-line snippet from Pausanias, where he describes
> the site just north of Monemvasia, Epidaurus Limera. *I remember seeing
> this place from the road but was foot-sore at the time and did not
> visit it. *I read in the on-line text of Pausanias, how if you
> travelled north from there by a certain distance you come across the
> site of Limenas, and how it has a nice harbor and a temple, etc etc. *
> And I did indeed on Day 68 of my big trip, visit the little village
> with the nice harbor, but at the time could not find access to the
> ancient site past some people's property. *And yet, Pausanius further
> describes additional sites even farther north, relating cool
> mythological facts about those sites -- and I cannot find them in my
> motoring atlas! *Nor in Google Maps. *Finding THOSE kinds of obscure
> places is what I'm after.
>
> Does anyone know an ultimate mapping sources for Greece, something that
> will have all these places?
>
> I really feel I connect with history when I visit the ancient places. *Thanks,
>
> --
> Dan Stephensonhttp://web.mac.com/stepheda
> Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too)[/color]

In Germany I use the 1:150000 scale Shell maps which for around
Stuttgart where I live show over 4000 places of interest to a tourist
of all types, and the places are accurately rated. Unfortunately,
they quit publishing these maps a few years ago, but you may be able
to find similar maps for Greece that will show ALL rural roads and
places of interest. A good large bookstore (probably in Athens) is a
good place to look for such maps as they should have a selection of
most of them that are available, and you can examine them to see which
ones best meet your interests.

My favorite times in Greece were actually driving through the
countryside searching for some of these obscure sites with poor out of
date maps. Usually an excellent time whether we were successful or
not as the drives through some unpopulated areas can be excellent in
themselves.

George
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