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Vecchio 17-07-2007, 23.25.40
Martin
 
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:14:45 +0100, [email]d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk[/email] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
[color=blue]
>Just received a text from the mobile company I use (Tesco) saying that
>they've dropped their prices for mobile calls while roaming outside the
>UK in all EU countries (though they don't cover Latvia, Lithuania or
>Slovakia) to 35p a minute outgoing, 15p a minute incoming. The 15p a
>minute seems fine, but the 35p outdoing rate is slightly more than the
>'cap' imposed by the EU, which is 49 cents. (Actually, I pay 31.5 and
>13.5 because I top up a certain amount a month.)[/color]

The cap doesn't apply until the end of August.
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Vecchio 17-07-2007, 23.30.49
David Horne, _the_ chancellor
 
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Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:14:45 +0100, [email]d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk[/email] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>[color=green]
> >Just received a text from the mobile company I use (Tesco) saying that
> >they've dropped their prices for mobile calls while roaming outside the
> >UK in all EU countries (though they don't cover Latvia, Lithuania or
> >Slovakia) to 35p a minute outgoing, 15p a minute incoming. The 15p a
> >minute seems fine, but the 35p outdoing rate is slightly more than the
> >'cap' imposed by the EU, which is 49 cents. (Actually, I pay 31.5 and
> >13.5 because I top up a certain amount a month.)[/color]
>
> The cap doesn't apply until the end of August.[/color]

Looks like they got in early then. Does the cap include VAT in the 49
cents?

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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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Vecchio 17-07-2007, 23.30.49
David Horne, _the_ chancellor
 
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Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:14:45 +0100, [email]d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk[/email] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>[color=green]
> >Just received a text from the mobile company I use (Tesco) saying that
> >they've dropped their prices for mobile calls while roaming outside the
> >UK in all EU countries (though they don't cover Latvia, Lithuania or
> >Slovakia) to 35p a minute outgoing, 15p a minute incoming. The 15p a
> >minute seems fine, but the 35p outdoing rate is slightly more than the
> >'cap' imposed by the EU, which is 49 cents. (Actually, I pay 31.5 and
> >13.5 because I top up a certain amount a month.)[/color]
>
> The cap doesn't apply until the end of August.[/color]

Looks like they got in early then. Does the cap include VAT in the 49
cents?

--
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[url]http://www.davidhorne.net[/url] - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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Vecchio 18-07-2007, 00.20.14
Martin
 
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:30:49 +0100, [email]d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk[/email] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
[color=blue]
>Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:14:45 +0100, [email]d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk[/email] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >Just received a text from the mobile company I use (Tesco) saying that
>> >they've dropped their prices for mobile calls while roaming outside the
>> >UK in all EU countries (though they don't cover Latvia, Lithuania or
>> >Slovakia) to 35p a minute outgoing, 15p a minute incoming. The 15p a
>> >minute seems fine, but the 35p outdoing rate is slightly more than the
>> >'cap' imposed by the EU, which is 49 cents. (Actually, I pay 31.5 and
>> >13.5 because I top up a certain amount a month.)[/color]
>>
>> The cap doesn't apply until the end of August.[/color]
>
>Looks like they got in early then. Does the cap include VAT in the 49
>cents?[/color]

No it excludes VAT. See EU site below.


EU site says end of August 2007 (in a complicated sort of way).


[url]http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/activities/roaming/consumer/better_deal/index_en.htm[/url]

"How soon can I benefit from a Eurotariff?

* Expect to receive an offer from your operator for a roaming Eurotariff by
the end of July 2007.
* If you accept, your operator has to activate the Eurotariff within one
month
* If you don't react by the end of September 2007, your operator will
automatically place you on a Eurotariff, unless you have a special roaming
package.
* The quicker you accept, the earlier you can benefit from lower roaming
charges, but do so before the end of August. 2007. After the end of August, it
makes more sense to wait until you are automatically switched to a Eurotariff.
* If you have a special roaming package, you will keep it, unless of course,
you inform your operator otherwise.
* If you are unsure whether your package is part of a special package or
not, your National Regulatory Authority will be able to guide you."
--

Martin

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  #5  
Vecchio 18-07-2007, 00.20.14
Martin
 
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Predefinito Re: mobile phone costs in the EU

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:30:49 +0100, [email]d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk[/email] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
[color=blue]
>Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:14:45 +0100, [email]d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk[/email] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >Just received a text from the mobile company I use (Tesco) saying that
>> >they've dropped their prices for mobile calls while roaming outside the
>> >UK in all EU countries (though they don't cover Latvia, Lithuania or
>> >Slovakia) to 35p a minute outgoing, 15p a minute incoming. The 15p a
>> >minute seems fine, but the 35p outdoing rate is slightly more than the
>> >'cap' imposed by the EU, which is 49 cents. (Actually, I pay 31.5 and
>> >13.5 because I top up a certain amount a month.)[/color]
>>
>> The cap doesn't apply until the end of August.[/color]
>
>Looks like they got in early then. Does the cap include VAT in the 49
>cents?[/color]

No it excludes VAT. See EU site below.


EU site says end of August 2007 (in a complicated sort of way).


[url]http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/activities/roaming/consumer/better_deal/index_en.htm[/url]

"How soon can I benefit from a Eurotariff?

* Expect to receive an offer from your operator for a roaming Eurotariff by
the end of July 2007.
* If you accept, your operator has to activate the Eurotariff within one
month
* If you don't react by the end of September 2007, your operator will
automatically place you on a Eurotariff, unless you have a special roaming
package.
* The quicker you accept, the earlier you can benefit from lower roaming
charges, but do so before the end of August. 2007. After the end of August, it
makes more sense to wait until you are automatically switched to a Eurotariff.
* If you have a special roaming package, you will keep it, unless of course,
you inform your operator otherwise.
* If you are unsure whether your package is part of a special package or
not, your National Regulatory Authority will be able to guide you."
--

Martin

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  #6  
Vecchio 18-07-2007, 00.20.16
Andy Pandy
 
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"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
message news:1i1ezoq.zi3w021qu4owwN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...[color=blue]
> Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:14:45 +0100, [email]d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk[/email] (David[/color][/color]
Horne, _the_[color=blue][color=green]
> > chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > >Just received a text from the mobile company I use (Tesco) saying[/color][/color][/color]
that[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >they've dropped their prices for mobile calls while roaming[/color][/color][/color]
outside the[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >UK in all EU countries (though they don't cover Latvia, Lithuania[/color][/color][/color]
or[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >Slovakia) to 35p a minute outgoing, 15p a minute incoming. The[/color][/color][/color]
15p a[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >minute seems fine, but the 35p outdoing rate is slightly more[/color][/color][/color]
than the[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >'cap' imposed by the EU, which is 49 cents. (Actually, I pay 31.5[/color][/color][/color]
and[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >13.5 because I top up a certain amount a month.)[/color]
> >
> > The cap doesn't apply until the end of August.[/color]
>
> Looks like they got in early then. Does the cap include VAT in the[/color]
49[color=blue]
> cents?[/color]

Ex VAT.

[url]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/expert/background_page/058-8388-136-05-20-909-20070626BKG08387-16-05-2007-2007-false/default_en.htm[/url]

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  #7  
Vecchio 18-07-2007, 00.20.16
Andy Pandy
 
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"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
message news:1i1ezoq.zi3w021qu4owwN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...[color=blue]
> Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:14:45 +0100, [email]d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk[/email] (David[/color][/color]
Horne, _the_[color=blue][color=green]
> > chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > >Just received a text from the mobile company I use (Tesco) saying[/color][/color][/color]
that[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >they've dropped their prices for mobile calls while roaming[/color][/color][/color]
outside the[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >UK in all EU countries (though they don't cover Latvia, Lithuania[/color][/color][/color]
or[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >Slovakia) to 35p a minute outgoing, 15p a minute incoming. The[/color][/color][/color]
15p a[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >minute seems fine, but the 35p outdoing rate is slightly more[/color][/color][/color]
than the[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >'cap' imposed by the EU, which is 49 cents. (Actually, I pay 31.5[/color][/color][/color]
and[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >13.5 because I top up a certain amount a month.)[/color]
> >
> > The cap doesn't apply until the end of August.[/color]
>
> Looks like they got in early then. Does the cap include VAT in the[/color]
49[color=blue]
> cents?[/color]

Ex VAT.

[url]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/expert/background_page/058-8388-136-05-20-909-20070626BKG08387-16-05-2007-2007-false/default_en.htm[/url]

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  #8  
Vecchio 18-07-2007, 00.24.47
David Horne, _the_ chancellor
 
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Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:30:49 +0100, [email]d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk[/email] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:[/color]
[][color=blue][color=green]
> >Looks like they got in early then. Does the cap include VAT in the 49
> >cents?[/color]
>
> No it excludes VAT. See EU site below.[/color]

OK- so that would make the price in line with the recommendation.[color=blue]
>
>
> EU site says end of August 2007 (in a complicated sort of way).
>
>
> [url]http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/activities/roaming/consumer/better[/url]
> _deal/index_en.htm
>
> "How soon can I benefit from a Eurotariff?
>
> * Expect to receive an offer from your operator for a roaming
> Eurotariff by the end of July 2007.
> * If you accept, your operator has to activate the Eurotariff within one
> month
> * If you don't react by the end of September 2007, your operator will
> automatically place you on a Eurotariff, unless you have a special roaming
> package.[/color]

In the case of Tesco (which is only prepaid- no contracts) there was no
offer- and I wouldn't have expected one given their very transparent
pricing structure. It looks like the non-EU prices are the same as
before, and I've not heard about the domestic price going up.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
[url]http://www.davidhorne.net[/url] - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
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Vecchio 18-07-2007, 00.24.47
David Horne, _the_ chancellor
 
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Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:30:49 +0100, [email]d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk[/email] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:[/color]
[][color=blue][color=green]
> >Looks like they got in early then. Does the cap include VAT in the 49
> >cents?[/color]
>
> No it excludes VAT. See EU site below.[/color]

OK- so that would make the price in line with the recommendation.[color=blue]
>
>
> EU site says end of August 2007 (in a complicated sort of way).
>
>
> [url]http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/activities/roaming/consumer/better[/url]
> _deal/index_en.htm
>
> "How soon can I benefit from a Eurotariff?
>
> * Expect to receive an offer from your operator for a roaming
> Eurotariff by the end of July 2007.
> * If you accept, your operator has to activate the Eurotariff within one
> month
> * If you don't react by the end of September 2007, your operator will
> automatically place you on a Eurotariff, unless you have a special roaming
> package.[/color]

In the case of Tesco (which is only prepaid- no contracts) there was no
offer- and I wouldn't have expected one given their very transparent
pricing structure. It looks like the non-EU prices are the same as
before, and I've not heard about the domestic price going up.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
[url]http://www.davidhorne.net[/url] - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
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Vecchio 18-07-2007, 00.36.00
Martin
 
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:24:47 +0100, [email]d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk[/email] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
[color=blue]
>Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:30:49 +0100, [email]d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk[/email] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:[/color]
>[][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >Looks like they got in early then. Does the cap include VAT in the 49
>> >cents?[/color]
>>
>> No it excludes VAT. See EU site below.[/color]
>
>OK- so that would make the price in line with the recommendation.[color=green]
>>
>>
>> EU site says end of August 2007 (in a complicated sort of way).
>>
>>
>> [url]http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/activities/roaming/consumer/better[/url]
>> _deal/index_en.htm
>>
>> "How soon can I benefit from a Eurotariff?
>>
>> * Expect to receive an offer from your operator for a roaming
>> Eurotariff by the end of July 2007.
>> * If you accept, your operator has to activate the Eurotariff within one
>> month
>> * If you don't react by the end of September 2007, your operator will
>> automatically place you on a Eurotariff, unless you have a special roaming
>> package.[/color]
>
>In the case of Tesco (which is only prepaid- no contracts) there was no
>offer-[/color]

It's not the end of July 2007 yet. I think Tesco uses O2? When we wanted to buy
prepaid Tesco SIM card earlier this year, we were offered O2 cards.
[color=blue]
>and I wouldn't have expected one given their very transparent
>pricing structure. It looks like the non-EU prices are the same as
>before,[/color]

Yes.
[color=blue]
>and I've not heard about the domestic price going up.[/color]

I find it hard to tell what Vodafone charge. As Vodafone UK have terminated all
our SIM cards except one, because they weren't used for half a year, we won't be
using Vodafone any more. O2 is far cheaper than Vodafone for calls within UK
and for calls from UK to NL.
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