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  #351  
Vecchio 29-10-2005, 01.11.06
Martin
 
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:41:52 +0100, "JohnT"
<johnhillriseSPAMNOT@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy"
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>> Martin <martin@privacy.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:42:45 +0100, [email]this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com[/email]
>>> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
>>> offy) wrote:[/color]
>> [][color=darkred]
>>> >That said, because the consequences of my arriving late would often be
>>> >extremely disruptive to quite a few people (say missing a workshop or a
>>> >rehearsal), as a matter of course I always leave padding time in my
>>> >journey. I find it much less stressfull that way, and I usually find
>>> >plenty of things to do when I arrive early.
>>>
>>> We used the train to go from York to Sheffield in November two years
>>> ago. We were almost two hours late arriving and about the same on the
>>> return journey. At York station every train on the board was at least
>>> an hour late or cancelled. I must say I wasn't impressed. We nearly
>>> missed my son's degree ceremony.[/color]
>>
>> I agree- I'm not impressed when I'm late either- I've just experienced
>> it less in the last year or so than for the previous 4!
>>[/color]
>
>You aren't tempted to use the Mixi approach? Either try to time your
>journey, including all your connections, to the second using your SatNav
>watch and GPS space helmet, and if you fail to get there on time just say"
>tough"; OR guarantee to get there on time and charge for 6 hours extra time
>(which, at your hourly rate, is probably more than Mixi makes in a year).[/color]

To be on the safe side we allowed an extra two hours for the trip.
--
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  #352  
Vecchio 29-10-2005, 01.11.06
Martin
 
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:41:52 +0100, "JohnT"
<johnhillriseSPAMNOT@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy"
><this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1h55upl.1wi89pc4l6rydN%this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com...[color=green]
>> Martin <martin@privacy.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:42:45 +0100, [email]this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com[/email]
>>> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
>>> offy) wrote:[/color]
>> [][color=darkred]
>>> >That said, because the consequences of my arriving late would often be
>>> >extremely disruptive to quite a few people (say missing a workshop or a
>>> >rehearsal), as a matter of course I always leave padding time in my
>>> >journey. I find it much less stressfull that way, and I usually find
>>> >plenty of things to do when I arrive early.
>>>
>>> We used the train to go from York to Sheffield in November two years
>>> ago. We were almost two hours late arriving and about the same on the
>>> return journey. At York station every train on the board was at least
>>> an hour late or cancelled. I must say I wasn't impressed. We nearly
>>> missed my son's degree ceremony.[/color]
>>
>> I agree- I'm not impressed when I'm late either- I've just experienced
>> it less in the last year or so than for the previous 4!
>>[/color]
>
>You aren't tempted to use the Mixi approach? Either try to time your
>journey, including all your connections, to the second using your SatNav
>watch and GPS space helmet, and if you fail to get there on time just say"
>tough"; OR guarantee to get there on time and charge for 6 hours extra time
>(which, at your hourly rate, is probably more than Mixi makes in a year).[/color]

To be on the safe side we allowed an extra two hours for the trip.
--
Martin
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  #353  
Vecchio 29-10-2005, 02.38.42
Louis Krupp
 
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Des Small wrote:[color=blue]
> Louis Krupp <lkrupp@pssw.nospam.com.invalid> writes:[color=green]
>>The bus can be a good way to get *from* the airport to your
>>destination (except possibly Milton Keynes, where the Coachway is a
>>long way from almost anywhere), but I'd think twice before taking a
>>bus *to* the airport. All it takes is a traffic accident or road
>>construction, and you can be delayed by hours. Rail and/or
>>underground are a safer bet.[/color]
>
> Trains are certainly never delayed, especially not in the UK, so this
> is very wise.
>
> (The last serious delay I encountered was two (2) unwanted hours at
> Naardem-Bussem, on a train trip from Schipol to Groningen due to an
> ex-someone having been on the track under the train. The one before
> was the Stansted "Express" from Stansted to Liverpool St(?) due to it
> being a British train - I never found out when it would 've gone, 'cos
> I'd taken the coach by then. I've never yet had a significant delay
> on the National Express Bristol<->Heathrow coaches, although I
> certainly know persons who have.)[/color]

My horror story was a bus ride from East Croydon to Heathrow. I left a
couple of hours early so I could hang around the observation deck and
take pictures, but construction on the M25 had pushed traffic onto the
bus route and we proceeded at a crawl through Kingston. The bus
schedule was science fiction and apparently had been for some time; the
bus company knew it, the local passengers knew it, but there was no
indication of it at the bus station. People who wanted to catch planes
were doing panicky things with their cell phone if they had one; I
didn't, so I just tried to relax since there was nothing I could do at
that point. I made to pre-checkin security at United Airlines minutes
before my flight was due to depart and explained my situation; they
speed-walked me through interrogation and check-in and onto the
concourse, and I boarded the plane. I think we sat and waited an hour
to push back because of problems with radar at Shannon ... or maybe that
was a different trip.

I'd agree that other than spending the night at a hotel within walking
distance of the airport (is there such a thing at Heathrow?), there's
nothing that can be done to guarantee that stuff like this won't happen.

Louis
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  #354  
Vecchio 29-10-2005, 02.38.42
Louis Krupp
 
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Des Small wrote:[color=blue]
> Louis Krupp <lkrupp@pssw.nospam.com.invalid> writes:[color=green]
>>The bus can be a good way to get *from* the airport to your
>>destination (except possibly Milton Keynes, where the Coachway is a
>>long way from almost anywhere), but I'd think twice before taking a
>>bus *to* the airport. All it takes is a traffic accident or road
>>construction, and you can be delayed by hours. Rail and/or
>>underground are a safer bet.[/color]
>
> Trains are certainly never delayed, especially not in the UK, so this
> is very wise.
>
> (The last serious delay I encountered was two (2) unwanted hours at
> Naardem-Bussem, on a train trip from Schipol to Groningen due to an
> ex-someone having been on the track under the train. The one before
> was the Stansted "Express" from Stansted to Liverpool St(?) due to it
> being a British train - I never found out when it would 've gone, 'cos
> I'd taken the coach by then. I've never yet had a significant delay
> on the National Express Bristol<->Heathrow coaches, although I
> certainly know persons who have.)[/color]

My horror story was a bus ride from East Croydon to Heathrow. I left a
couple of hours early so I could hang around the observation deck and
take pictures, but construction on the M25 had pushed traffic onto the
bus route and we proceeded at a crawl through Kingston. The bus
schedule was science fiction and apparently had been for some time; the
bus company knew it, the local passengers knew it, but there was no
indication of it at the bus station. People who wanted to catch planes
were doing panicky things with their cell phone if they had one; I
didn't, so I just tried to relax since there was nothing I could do at
that point. I made to pre-checkin security at United Airlines minutes
before my flight was due to depart and explained my situation; they
speed-walked me through interrogation and check-in and onto the
concourse, and I boarded the plane. I think we sat and waited an hour
to push back because of problems with radar at Shannon ... or maybe that
was a different trip.

I'd agree that other than spending the night at a hotel within walking
distance of the airport (is there such a thing at Heathrow?), there's
nothing that can be done to guarantee that stuff like this won't happen.

Louis
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  #355  
Vecchio 29-10-2005, 02.38.42
Louis Krupp
 
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Des Small wrote:[color=blue]
> Louis Krupp <lkrupp@pssw.nospam.com.invalid> writes:[color=green]
>>The bus can be a good way to get *from* the airport to your
>>destination (except possibly Milton Keynes, where the Coachway is a
>>long way from almost anywhere), but I'd think twice before taking a
>>bus *to* the airport. All it takes is a traffic accident or road
>>construction, and you can be delayed by hours. Rail and/or
>>underground are a safer bet.[/color]
>
> Trains are certainly never delayed, especially not in the UK, so this
> is very wise.
>
> (The last serious delay I encountered was two (2) unwanted hours at
> Naardem-Bussem, on a train trip from Schipol to Groningen due to an
> ex-someone having been on the track under the train. The one before
> was the Stansted "Express" from Stansted to Liverpool St(?) due to it
> being a British train - I never found out when it would 've gone, 'cos
> I'd taken the coach by then. I've never yet had a significant delay
> on the National Express Bristol<->Heathrow coaches, although I
> certainly know persons who have.)[/color]

My horror story was a bus ride from East Croydon to Heathrow. I left a
couple of hours early so I could hang around the observation deck and
take pictures, but construction on the M25 had pushed traffic onto the
bus route and we proceeded at a crawl through Kingston. The bus
schedule was science fiction and apparently had been for some time; the
bus company knew it, the local passengers knew it, but there was no
indication of it at the bus station. People who wanted to catch planes
were doing panicky things with their cell phone if they had one; I
didn't, so I just tried to relax since there was nothing I could do at
that point. I made to pre-checkin security at United Airlines minutes
before my flight was due to depart and explained my situation; they
speed-walked me through interrogation and check-in and onto the
concourse, and I boarded the plane. I think we sat and waited an hour
to push back because of problems with radar at Shannon ... or maybe that
was a different trip.

I'd agree that other than spending the night at a hotel within walking
distance of the airport (is there such a thing at Heathrow?), there's
nothing that can be done to guarantee that stuff like this won't happen.

Louis
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  #356  
Vecchio 29-10-2005, 02.38.42
Louis Krupp
 
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Des Small wrote:[color=blue]
> Louis Krupp <lkrupp@pssw.nospam.com.invalid> writes:[color=green]
>>The bus can be a good way to get *from* the airport to your
>>destination (except possibly Milton Keynes, where the Coachway is a
>>long way from almost anywhere), but I'd think twice before taking a
>>bus *to* the airport. All it takes is a traffic accident or road
>>construction, and you can be delayed by hours. Rail and/or
>>underground are a safer bet.[/color]
>
> Trains are certainly never delayed, especially not in the UK, so this
> is very wise.
>
> (The last serious delay I encountered was two (2) unwanted hours at
> Naardem-Bussem, on a train trip from Schipol to Groningen due to an
> ex-someone having been on the track under the train. The one before
> was the Stansted "Express" from Stansted to Liverpool St(?) due to it
> being a British train - I never found out when it would 've gone, 'cos
> I'd taken the coach by then. I've never yet had a significant delay
> on the National Express Bristol<->Heathrow coaches, although I
> certainly know persons who have.)[/color]

My horror story was a bus ride from East Croydon to Heathrow. I left a
couple of hours early so I could hang around the observation deck and
take pictures, but construction on the M25 had pushed traffic onto the
bus route and we proceeded at a crawl through Kingston. The bus
schedule was science fiction and apparently had been for some time; the
bus company knew it, the local passengers knew it, but there was no
indication of it at the bus station. People who wanted to catch planes
were doing panicky things with their cell phone if they had one; I
didn't, so I just tried to relax since there was nothing I could do at
that point. I made to pre-checkin security at United Airlines minutes
before my flight was due to depart and explained my situation; they
speed-walked me through interrogation and check-in and onto the
concourse, and I boarded the plane. I think we sat and waited an hour
to push back because of problems with radar at Shannon ... or maybe that
was a different trip.

I'd agree that other than spending the night at a hotel within walking
distance of the airport (is there such a thing at Heathrow?), there's
nothing that can be done to guarantee that stuff like this won't happen.

Louis
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  #357  
Vecchio 29-10-2005, 02.38.42
Louis Krupp
 
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Des Small wrote:[color=blue]
> Louis Krupp <lkrupp@pssw.nospam.com.invalid> writes:[color=green]
>>The bus can be a good way to get *from* the airport to your
>>destination (except possibly Milton Keynes, where the Coachway is a
>>long way from almost anywhere), but I'd think twice before taking a
>>bus *to* the airport. All it takes is a traffic accident or road
>>construction, and you can be delayed by hours. Rail and/or
>>underground are a safer bet.[/color]
>
> Trains are certainly never delayed, especially not in the UK, so this
> is very wise.
>
> (The last serious delay I encountered was two (2) unwanted hours at
> Naardem-Bussem, on a train trip from Schipol to Groningen due to an
> ex-someone having been on the track under the train. The one before
> was the Stansted "Express" from Stansted to Liverpool St(?) due to it
> being a British train - I never found out when it would 've gone, 'cos
> I'd taken the coach by then. I've never yet had a significant delay
> on the National Express Bristol<->Heathrow coaches, although I
> certainly know persons who have.)[/color]

My horror story was a bus ride from East Croydon to Heathrow. I left a
couple of hours early so I could hang around the observation deck and
take pictures, but construction on the M25 had pushed traffic onto the
bus route and we proceeded at a crawl through Kingston. The bus
schedule was science fiction and apparently had been for some time; the
bus company knew it, the local passengers knew it, but there was no
indication of it at the bus station. People who wanted to catch planes
were doing panicky things with their cell phone if they had one; I
didn't, so I just tried to relax since there was nothing I could do at
that point. I made to pre-checkin security at United Airlines minutes
before my flight was due to depart and explained my situation; they
speed-walked me through interrogation and check-in and onto the
concourse, and I boarded the plane. I think we sat and waited an hour
to push back because of problems with radar at Shannon ... or maybe that
was a different trip.

I'd agree that other than spending the night at a hotel within walking
distance of the airport (is there such a thing at Heathrow?), there's
nothing that can be done to guarantee that stuff like this won't happen.

Louis
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  #358  
Vecchio 29-10-2005, 02.38.42
Louis Krupp
 
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Des Small wrote:[color=blue]
> Louis Krupp <lkrupp@pssw.nospam.com.invalid> writes:[color=green]
>>The bus can be a good way to get *from* the airport to your
>>destination (except possibly Milton Keynes, where the Coachway is a
>>long way from almost anywhere), but I'd think twice before taking a
>>bus *to* the airport. All it takes is a traffic accident or road
>>construction, and you can be delayed by hours. Rail and/or
>>underground are a safer bet.[/color]
>
> Trains are certainly never delayed, especially not in the UK, so this
> is very wise.
>
> (The last serious delay I encountered was two (2) unwanted hours at
> Naardem-Bussem, on a train trip from Schipol to Groningen due to an
> ex-someone having been on the track under the train. The one before
> was the Stansted "Express" from Stansted to Liverpool St(?) due to it
> being a British train - I never found out when it would 've gone, 'cos
> I'd taken the coach by then. I've never yet had a significant delay
> on the National Express Bristol<->Heathrow coaches, although I
> certainly know persons who have.)[/color]

My horror story was a bus ride from East Croydon to Heathrow. I left a
couple of hours early so I could hang around the observation deck and
take pictures, but construction on the M25 had pushed traffic onto the
bus route and we proceeded at a crawl through Kingston. The bus
schedule was science fiction and apparently had been for some time; the
bus company knew it, the local passengers knew it, but there was no
indication of it at the bus station. People who wanted to catch planes
were doing panicky things with their cell phone if they had one; I
didn't, so I just tried to relax since there was nothing I could do at
that point. I made to pre-checkin security at United Airlines minutes
before my flight was due to depart and explained my situation; they
speed-walked me through interrogation and check-in and onto the
concourse, and I boarded the plane. I think we sat and waited an hour
to push back because of problems with radar at Shannon ... or maybe that
was a different trip.

I'd agree that other than spending the night at a hotel within walking
distance of the airport (is there such a thing at Heathrow?), there's
nothing that can be done to guarantee that stuff like this won't happen.

Louis
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  #359  
Vecchio 29-10-2005, 12.01.14
KGB
 
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:42:45 +0100, [email]this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com[/email]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy) wrote:
[color=blue]
>The Reid <dontuse@fell-walker.co.uk> wrote:
>[/color]
<SNIP>[color=blue]
>Based on the last year or so, I'd say that punctuality is pretty good.
>It doesn't have Swiss style efficiency, but I'm rarely on trains which
>are late nowadays- so much so that when it happens, it's a bit of a
>surprise. Had a cancelled train last week from Manchester to Birmingham
>and then the next was 15 minutes late. Also, it's interesting to note
>what the problems causing the delays or cancellations are. It's not
>always in the hands of the train operators. A particularly bad delay I
>had from Bristol a year or so ago was caused because of a suicide on the
>line.[/color]
<SNIP>

Hi

Rather bizarrely, my wife was once travelling from the South to the
North of England and the trains were running so late that she actually
arrived an hour earlier than she should have done.

This journey involved a couple of changes and should have meant a
relatively long wait for a connection each time. However due to
trains running late, at each change of train, she managed to jump
straight onto a connection which, according to the timetable, should
already have left.

Unfortunately it all went pear-shaped when she arrived at our local
station and purely because she wasn't due for an hour, I wasn't there
to meet her - guess whose fault that was!!!!

Regards



KGB

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  #360  
Vecchio 29-10-2005, 12.01.14
KGB
 
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:42:45 +0100, [email]this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com[/email]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy) wrote:
[color=blue]
>The Reid <dontuse@fell-walker.co.uk> wrote:
>[/color]
<SNIP>[color=blue]
>Based on the last year or so, I'd say that punctuality is pretty good.
>It doesn't have Swiss style efficiency, but I'm rarely on trains which
>are late nowadays- so much so that when it happens, it's a bit of a
>surprise. Had a cancelled train last week from Manchester to Birmingham
>and then the next was 15 minutes late. Also, it's interesting to note
>what the problems causing the delays or cancellations are. It's not
>always in the hands of the train operators. A particularly bad delay I
>had from Bristol a year or so ago was caused because of a suicide on the
>line.[/color]
<SNIP>

Hi

Rather bizarrely, my wife was once travelling from the South to the
North of England and the trains were running so late that she actually
arrived an hour earlier than she should have done.

This journey involved a couple of changes and should have meant a
relatively long wait for a connection each time. However due to
trains running late, at each change of train, she managed to jump
straight onto a connection which, according to the timetable, should
already have left.

Unfortunately it all went pear-shaped when she arrived at our local
station and purely because she wasn't due for an hour, I wasn't there
to meet her - guess whose fault that was!!!!

Regards



KGB

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