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  #11  
Vecchio 19-09-2014, 09.12.14
Martin
 
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:07:15 +0100, mikeos <mikeos3@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On 18/09/2014 07:29, Martin wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> It only costs about EUR 3 to take a train from Schiphol to the centre of
>> Amsterdam. There's a train about every 15 minutes.[/color]
>
>I would recommend the 197 bus. Very convenient.[/color]

The train leaves from a station in the basement of the airport and doesn't get
caught in traffic jams :-)
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  #12  
Vecchio 02-10-2014, 09.35.13
Surreyman
 
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On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:02:12 AM UTC+1, Alfred Molon wrote:[color=blue]
> Here is a detailed report of our trip to northern Germany, Denmark and
>
> the Netherlands in June this year (by car + plane from Munich):
>
>
>
> [url]http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Germany/2014/[/url] (Germany)
>
> [url]http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Denmark/2014/[/url] (Denmark)
>
> [url]http://www.molon.de/travelogues/Netherlands/2014/[/url] (Netherlands)
>
>
>
> --
>
> Alfred Molon
>
> [url]http://www.molon.de[/url] - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe[/color]

You ate 'ethnic' in the Netherlands, but not Indonesian? You missed out on one of the Netherlands' major treats!
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  #13  
Vecchio 02-10-2014, 21.21.58
Alfred Molon
 
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In article <06096260-af26-441c-a9ac-797cf81020ff@googlegroups.com>,
Surreyman says...[color=blue]
>
> You ate 'ethnic' in the Netherlands, but not Indonesian? You missed out on one of the Netherlands' major treats![/color]

My wife is Malaysian, so I'm well acquainted with Indonesian food.
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Alfred Molon
[url]http://www.molon.de[/url] - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe
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  #14  
Vecchio 03-10-2014, 10.18.03
Martin
 
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 21:21:58 +0200, Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>In article <06096260-af26-441c-a9ac-797cf81020ff@googlegroups.com>,
>Surreyman says...[color=green]
>>
>> You ate 'ethnic' in the Netherlands, but not Indonesian? You missed out on one of the Netherlands' major treats![/color]
>
>My wife is Malaysian, so I'm well acquainted with Indonesian food.[/color]

without spending a ridiculous amount on what in many cases is a poor Dutch
imitation of the real thing in Amsterdam.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland



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  #15  
Vecchio 03-10-2014, 11.39.56
Surreyman
 
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On Friday, October 3, 2014 9:18:03 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 21:21:58 +0200, Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>[color=green]
> >In article <06096260-af26-441c-a9ac-797cf81020ff@googlegroups.com>,[/color]
>[color=green]
> >Surreyman says...[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> You ate 'ethnic' in the Netherlands, but not Indonesian? You missed out on one of the Netherlands' major treats![/color][/color]
>[color=green]
> >[/color]
>[color=green]
> >My wife is Malaysian, so I'm well acquainted with Indonesian food.[/color]
>
>
>
> without spending a ridiculous amount on what in many cases is a poor Dutch
>
> imitation of the real thing in Amsterdam.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Martin in Zuid Holland[/color]

As is curry in UK - but still highly enjoyable nevertheless!
However, thanks to my Dutch friends having trained up as Indo chefs to professional standards (as a hobby), they've also taken us to 'proper' restaurants, especially around Den Haag.
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  #16  
Vecchio 03-10-2014, 12.17.08
Martin
 
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 02:39:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Friday, October 3, 2014 9:18:03 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[color=green]
>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 21:21:58 +0200, Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>> >In article <06096260-af26-441c-a9ac-797cf81020ff@googlegroups.com>,[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >Surreyman says...[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >> You ate 'ethnic' in the Netherlands, but not Indonesian? You missed out on one of the Netherlands' major treats![/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >My wife is Malaysian, so I'm well acquainted with Indonesian food.[/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> without spending a ridiculous amount on what in many cases is a poor Dutch
>>
>> imitation of the real thing in Amsterdam.
>>[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>As is curry in UK - but still highly enjoyable nevertheless![/color]

Curry in UK is hardly sold at the prices charged for Indonesian food in
Amsterdam.
[color=blue]
>However, thanks to my Dutch friends having trained up as Indo chefs to professional standards (as a hobby), they've also taken us to 'proper' restaurants, especially around Den Haag.[/color]

There are no proper Indonesian restaurants in Leiden. The food of the one that
is rated as the best is cooked in The Hague and is reheated in Leiden. The
resulting quality is poor.

I've never had an Indonesian meal in NL that is anything like that sold in
Singapore and Malaysia. Even the Dutch Indonesian satay isn't anything like the
real thing. Often it is boiled in the bag stuff.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland



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  #17  
Vecchio 04-10-2014, 09.27.49
Surreyman
 
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On Friday, October 3, 2014 11:17:08 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[color=blue]
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 02:39:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>[color=green]
> >On Friday, October 3, 2014 9:18:03 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 21:21:58 +0200, Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >In article <06096260-af26-441c-a9ac-797cf81020ff@googlegroups.com>,[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >Surreyman says...[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> You ate 'ethnic' in the Netherlands, but not Indonesian? You missed out on one of the Netherlands' major treats![/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >My wife is Malaysian, so I'm well acquainted with Indonesian food.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> without spending a ridiculous amount on what in many cases is a poor Dutch[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> imitation of the real thing in Amsterdam.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>
>
>[color=green]
> >As is curry in UK - but still highly enjoyable nevertheless![/color]
>
>
>
> Curry in UK is hardly sold at the prices charged for Indonesian food in
>
> Amsterdam.
>
>
>[color=green]
> >However, thanks to my Dutch friends having trained up as Indo chefs to professional standards (as a hobby), they've also taken us to 'proper' restaurants, especially around Den Haag.[/color]
>
>
>
> There are no proper Indonesian restaurants in Leiden. The food of the one that
>
> is rated as the best is cooked in The Hague and is reheated in Leiden. The
>
> resulting quality is poor.
>
>
>
> I've never had an Indonesian meal in NL that is anything like that sold in
>
> Singapore and Malaysia. Even the Dutch Indonesian satay isn't anything like the
>
> real thing. Often it is boiled in the bag stuff.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Martin in Zuid Holland[/color]

Authenticity apart, I have to say I've often eaten Indonesian in the Netherlands at approximately UK curry prices - maybe not in central A'dam recently, but then I don't tend to eat curry in Regent Street either.
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  #18  
Vecchio 04-10-2014, 10.10.30
Martin
 
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On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 00:27:49 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>
wrote:
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>On Friday, October 3, 2014 11:17:08 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[color=green]
>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 02:39:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>> >On Friday, October 3, 2014 9:18:03 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 21:21:58 +0200, Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >> >In article <06096260-af26-441c-a9ac-797cf81020ff@googlegroups.com>,[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >> >Surreyman says...[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>[/color]
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>> >> >>[/color]
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>> >>[/color]
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>> >> >> You ate 'ethnic' in the Netherlands, but not Indonesian? You missed out on one of the Netherlands' major treats![/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>[/color]
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>> >> >[/color]
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>> >>[/color]
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>> >> >My wife is Malaysian, so I'm well acquainted with Indonesian food.[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>[/color]
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>> >>[/color]
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>> >>[/color]
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>> >> without spending a ridiculous amount on what in many cases is a poor Dutch[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >> imitation of the real thing in Amsterdam.[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>[/color]
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>> >As is curry in UK - but still highly enjoyable nevertheless![/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> Curry in UK is hardly sold at the prices charged for Indonesian food in
>>
>> Amsterdam.
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>> >However, thanks to my Dutch friends having trained up as Indo chefs to professional standards (as a hobby), they've also taken us to 'proper' restaurants, especially around Den Haag.[/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> There are no proper Indonesian restaurants in Leiden. The food of the one that
>>
>> is rated as the best is cooked in The Hague and is reheated in Leiden. The
>>
>> resulting quality is poor.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've never had an Indonesian meal in NL that is anything like that sold in
>>
>> Singapore and Malaysia. Even the Dutch Indonesian satay isn't anything like the
>>
>> real thing. Often it is boiled in the bag stuff.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>Authenticity apart, I have to say I've often eaten Indonesian in the Netherlands at approximately UK curry prices - maybe not in central A'dam recently, but then I don't tend to eat curry in Regent Street either.[/color]

There's no restaurants in the Leiden area selling Asian food for the price of a
good curry in the North of England. You are lucky if you can buy a starter in NL
for the same price.

How much are you paying for the Indonesian meals you buy in NL?
--

Martin in Zuid Holland



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  #19  
Vecchio 04-10-2014, 23.19.37
poldy
 
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In article <4dts2a53c7bnd189rtprergoibld2cb7f2@4ax.com>,
Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I've never had an Indonesian meal in NL that is anything like that sold in
> Singapore and Malaysia. Even the Dutch Indonesian satay isn't anything like
> the
> real thing. Often it is boiled in the bag stuff.[/color]

So no restaurants run by Indonesian immigrants?
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Vecchio 05-10-2014, 08.47.03
Martin
 
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 14:19:37 -0700, poldy <poldy@kfu.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>In article <4dts2a53c7bnd189rtprergoibld2cb7f2@4ax.com>,
> Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I've never had an Indonesian meal in NL that is anything like that sold in
>> Singapore and Malaysia. Even the Dutch Indonesian satay isn't anything like
>> the
>> real thing. Often it is boiled in the bag stuff.[/color]
>
>So no restaurants run by Indonesian immigrants?[/color]

They retired long ago. What were Indonesian restaurants are owned and run by
Chinese immigrants nowadays.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland



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