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Vecchio 08-10-2014, 11.23.17
Martin
 
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Predefinito Re: Germany, Denmark, Netherlands travelogue

On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 01:56:41 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>
wrote:
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>On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 10:04:53 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[color=green]
>> On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 01:53:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>
>>
>> wrote:
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>> >On Monday, October 6, 2014 9:31:20 PM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[/color]
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>> >Nah - deepest Surrey. Apparently the most expensive for property in the UK except for central London. :-([/color]
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>> I guess Surreyman was a clue :-)
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>> The bungalow is cheap by Zuid Holland standards. There's a property boom here
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>> prices have reached 2003 level. Some years ago the Dutch government killed the
>>
>> housing market by making mortgage payments not tax deductible.
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>> --
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>> Martin in Zuid Holland[/color]
>
>I can scarcely believe that. It's some time since I looked at house prices (around De Lier & Naaldwijk, for instance) but they were then very cheap re Surrey. But most people (I know, anyway) seem to rent, and the current rental prices also still appear cheap.
>Interesting.[/color]

My wife reckons that a detached bungalow in the Bollenstreek costs anything
between £500,000 and £1 million. The land they are built on costs a fortune.
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>Mortgage tax relief disappeared in UK a million years ago![/color]

:-)

I didn't realise until it was stopped, that payments on a mortgage for a boat
were fully tax deductible. It explained why people had such big boats compared
to our boat.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland



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  #32  
Vecchio 08-10-2014, 17.23.42
Surreyman
 
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Predefinito Re: Germany, Denmark, Netherlands travelogue

On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 10:04:53 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 01:53:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>
>
> wrote:
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> >On Monday, October 6, 2014 9:31:20 PM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[/color]
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> >> On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 07:04:36 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>[/color][/color]
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> >> >On Monday, October 6, 2014 12:36:27 PM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[/color][/color]
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> >> >> houses in N Staffordshire cost a fraction of the price of houses in Surrey. A[/color][/color]
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> >> >> good three bed roomed semi-detached house costs under ?150K[/color][/color]
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> >> >> Makes one wonder why there isn't a mass migration to leafy N Staffordshire :-)[/color][/color]
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> >> >I've just moved (within the same town) to a small 3-bedroom detached bungalow for ?400,000.[/color][/color]
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> >> >You tell me why I don't move to Staffs - or, more especially, Spain! :-))[/color][/color]
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> >> Zuid Holland isn't any cheaper than that.[/color][/color]
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> >Nah - deepest Surrey. Apparently the most expensive for property in the UK except for central London. :-([/color]
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> I guess Surreyman was a clue :-)
>
>
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> The bungalow is cheap by Zuid Holland standards. There's a property boom here
>
> prices have reached 2003 level. Some years ago the Dutch government killed the
>
> housing market by making mortgage payments not tax deductible.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Martin in Zuid Holland[/color]

Just realised I don't know where you are, either (& I don't mean Zuid Holland!)?
Are you Brit or Dutchish?
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  #33  
Vecchio 09-10-2014, 00.13.20
Martin
 
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Predefinito Re: Germany, Denmark, Netherlands travelogue

On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 08:23:42 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>
wrote:
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>On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 10:04:53 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[color=green]
>> On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 01:53:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
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>> >On Monday, October 6, 2014 9:31:20 PM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >> On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 07:04:36 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>[/color]
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>> >> >You're telling me.[/color]
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>> >> >I've just moved (within the same town) to a small 3-bedroom detached bungalow for ?400,000.[/color]
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>> >> >You tell me why I don't move to Staffs - or, more especially, Spain! :-))[/color]
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>> >> For some reason I thought you lived in Harwich.[/color]
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>> >> Martin in Zuid Holland[/color]
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>> >Nah - deepest Surrey. Apparently the most expensive for property in the UK except for central London. :-([/color]
>>
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>> I guess Surreyman was a clue :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> The bungalow is cheap by Zuid Holland standards. There's a property boom here
>>
>> prices have reached 2003 level. Some years ago the Dutch government killed the
>>
>> housing market by making mortgage payments not tax deductible.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Martin in Zuid Holland[/color]
>
>Just realised I don't know where you are, either (& I don't mean Zuid Holland!)?
>Are you Brit or Dutchish?[/color]

A Brit expat living near Leiden.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland



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  #34  
Vecchio 09-10-2014, 09.26.04
Surreyman
 
Messaggi: n/a
Predefinito Re: Germany, Denmark, Netherlands travelogue

On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:13:20 PM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[color=blue]
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 08:23:42 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
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> >On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 10:04:53 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[/color]
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> >> On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 01:53:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>[/color][/color]
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> >> The bungalow is cheap by Zuid Holland standards. There's a property boom here[/color][/color]
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> >> prices have reached 2003 level. Some years ago the Dutch government killed the[/color][/color]
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> >> Martin in Zuid Holland[/color][/color]
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> >[/color]
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> >Just realised I don't know where you are, either (& I don't mean Zuid Holland!)?[/color]
>[color=green]
> >Are you Brit or Dutchish?[/color]
>
>
>
> A Brit expat living near Leiden.
>
> --
>
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> Martin in Zuid Holland[/color]

Nice. Used to visit the excellent university there.
On the surface at least (?) an extremely attractive town.
I used a flat in den Haag for my visits (moving throughout Netherlands, bookshops, publishers, universities), made numerous friends with whom we still visit, and in the 60s my wife and I also darned nearly 'emigrated' there.
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  #35  
Vecchio 09-10-2014, 11.12.56
Martin
 
Messaggi: n/a
Predefinito Re: Germany, Denmark, Netherlands travelogue

On Thu, 9 Oct 2014 00:26:04 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>
wrote:

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>> >On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 10:04:53 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >> On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 01:53:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >Are you Brit or Dutchish?[/color]
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>> A Brit expat living near Leiden.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>Nice. Used to visit the excellent university there.
>On the surface at least (?) an extremely attractive town.
>I used a flat in den Haag for my visits (moving throughout Netherlands, bookshops, publishers, universities), made numerous friends with whom we still visit, and in the 60s my wife and I also darned nearly 'emigrated' there.[/color]

That's the time when I did, initially planning to stay a couple of years.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland



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Michael
 
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On 5/10/2014 08:47, Martin wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 14:19:37 -0700, poldy <poldy@kfu.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> In article <4dts2a53c7bnd189rtprergoibld2cb7f2@4ax.com>,
>> Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I've never had an Indonesian meal in NL that is anything like that sold in
>>> Singapore and Malaysia. Even the Dutch Indonesian satay isn't anything like
>>> the
>>> real thing. Often it is boiled in the bag stuff.[/color]
>>
>> So no restaurants run by Indonesian immigrants?[/color]
>
> They retired long ago. What were Indonesian restaurants are owned and run by
> Chinese immigrants nowadays.
>[/color]

I've also had very dodgy food in an Italian restaurant run by Pakistanis
or Indians.

M
[url]http://cannes-or-bust.com/[/url]
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Surreyman
 
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On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:23:17 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[color=blue]
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 01:56:41 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
>
> [color=green]
> >On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 10:04:53 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 01:53:56 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> wrote:[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >On Monday, October 6, 2014 9:31:20 PM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 07:04:36 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> wrote:[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> >On Monday, October 6, 2014 12:36:27 PM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> <snip>[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> >> houses in N Staffordshire cost a fraction of the price of housesin Surrey. A[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> >> good three bed roomed semi-detached house costs under ?150K[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> >> Makes one wonder why there isn't a mass migration to leafy N Staffordshire :-)[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> >You're telling me.[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> >I've just moved (within the same town) to a small 3-bedroom detached bungalow for ?400,000.[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> >You tell me why I don't move to Staffs - or, more especially, Spain! :-))[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> Zuid Holland isn't any cheaper than that. [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> For some reason I thought you lived in Harwich.[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> -- [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> Martin in Zuid Holland[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >Nah - deepest Surrey. Apparently the most expensive for property in the UK except for central London. :-([/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> I guess Surreyman was a clue :-)[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> The bungalow is cheap by Zuid Holland standards. There's a property boom here[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> prices have reached 2003 level. Some years ago the Dutch government killed the[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> housing market by making mortgage payments not tax deductible.[/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> -- [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> [/color][/color]
> [color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Martin in Zuid Holland[/color][/color]
> [color=green]
> >[/color]
> [color=green]
> >I can scarcely believe that. It's some time since I looked at house prices (around De Lier & Naaldwijk, for instance) but they were then very cheapre Surrey. But most people (I know, anyway) seem to rent, and the current rental prices also still appear cheap.[/color]
> [color=green]
> >Interesting.[/color]
>
>
>
> My wife reckons that a detached bungalow in the Bollenstreek costs anything
>
> between £500,000 and £1 million. The land they are built on costs a fortune.
>
>
> [color=green]
> >Mortgage tax relief disappeared in UK a million years ago![/color]
>
>
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> I didn't realise until it was stopped, that payments on a mortgage for aboat
>
> were fully tax deductible. It explained why people had such big boats compared
>
> to our boat.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Martin in Zuid Holland[/color]

Apologies, have been away.
Can't speak for Bollenstreek as a whole, but De Lier is certainly well below that.
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Vecchio 16-10-2014, 11.43.25
Martin
 
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 01:38:24 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman
<alanspencer3@googlemail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:23:17 AM UTC+1, Martin wrote:[color=green]
>> On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 01:56:41 -0700 (PDT), Surreyman <alanspencer3@googlemail.com>
>>
>> wrote:[/color][/color]

[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >I can scarcely believe that. It's some time since I looked at house prices (around De Lier & Naaldwijk, for instance) but they were then very cheap re Surrey. But most people (I know, anyway) seem to rent, and the current rental prices also still appear cheap.[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >Interesting.[/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> My wife reckons that a detached bungalow in the Bollenstreek costs anything
>>
>> between £500,000 and £1 million. The land they are built on costs a fortune.
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>> >Mortgage tax relief disappeared in UK a million years ago![/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't realise until it was stopped, that payments on a mortgage for a boat
>>
>> were fully tax deductible. It explained why people had such big boats compared
>>
>> to our boat.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>Apologies, have been away.
>Can't speak for Bollenstreek as a whole, but De Lier is certainly well below that.[/color]

What with a cheap Indonesian restaurant and cheap bungalows De Lier sounds like
paradise maybe we should move there :-)

We sat on a restaurant terrace in Enkhuizen on Sunday and paid EUR 25 for two
portions of bitterballen, a Guinness and an orange juice. The good news was that
although the terrace was crowded there was only one person smoking. How things
have changed in the last few years.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland



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alkbra
 
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'Michael[_1_ Wrote:[color=blue]
> ;1046206']On 5/10/2014 08:47, Martin wrote:
> I've also had very dodgy food in an Italian restaurant run by Pakistanis
>
> or Indians.
>
>[/color]
Can you tell me the restaurant's name and location; moreover about your
favorite dish which you have tasted in this restaurant and why you like
that dish? I want to know your views about its dining options and timing
of this restaurant. I think you can help me if you visited there.




--
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