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  #101  
Vecchio 12-06-2014, 11.52.28
Martin
 
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 22:46:51 +0100, "JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote in message
>news:8uihp9lbin7adg132uavuob8vnnakhj3q6@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:32:30 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
>> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>"JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Erilar" <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:ln7bpm$ev9$2@dont-email.me...
>>>>> "JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Erilar" <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote in message >>
>>>>>> news:ln4mcq$eau$3@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> "JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Erilar" <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote in message >>
>>>>>>>> news:ln1l1j$uqa$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>> "JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I find it very difficult to comprehend how the RETURN half of an
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> e-ticket
>>>>>>>>>> can be "mucked up". An e-ticket is just a record on a computer
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> system -
>>>>>>>>>> Amadeus in the case of BA - and it has no physical existence. It
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't >> have two halfs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps Erilar should try a few flights on Spirit Airlines in the
>>>>>>>>>> USA >>>>>> >>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> on Ryanair in Europe. She may then have some benchmark for >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> comparison.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In Europe itself I normally take the train. This was part of a
>>>>>>>>> cruise
>>>>>>>>> package. No one could understand how they mucked up the return
>>>>>>>>> half >>>>> of >>> an
>>>>>>>>> e-ticket. I even had it in my hand! Even so, what was in their
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>> didn't match it. The number was correct, but someone had butchered
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> name. Computers are seldom that kind of stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, so it wasn't British Airways who made the mistake. The error was
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> whoever booked your cruise package as you had no direct contact with
>>>>>>>> BA
>>>>>>>> in the booking process. And computers are totally without
>>>>>>>> intelligence.
>>>>>>>> They rely entirely on whoever programs them and/or feeds information
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> their programs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, everything was correct on the e-ticket for both legs of the trip,
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> the woman at the BA counter agreed. Someone had intervened and
>>>>>>> mucked >>> up
>>>>>>> my name, apparently while I was on the cruise. The ticket was part
>>>>>>> of >>> the
>>>>>>> cruise package.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But there is no evidence at all that British Airways were at fault.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing even remotely similar has ever happened with any other airline
>>>>> > I've
>>>>> dealt with.
>>>>
>>>> OK, I give in. It will be exclusively Air France from now on?
>>>
>>>SAS, Lufthansa, or United.[/color]
>>
>> Lucky them :-)[/color]
>
>Does Erilar possess an Irony Meter? If so, does she know how to switch it
>on?[/color]

I've avoided Lufthansa ever since they replaced in flight meals with a stale
bread roll in a ***** paper bag, that you had to collect as you boarded. Around
the same time a small German airline offered three fresh bread rolls in a *****
paper bag delivered to your seat and as many tins/cans of beer as you wanted.
If you were hungry you could have more than one bag of rolls.
The airline, General Air, was part owned by a German brewery. The airline used
Russian Yak 40 jets.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

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  #102  
Vecchio 12-06-2014, 11.52.28
Martin
 
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Predefinito Re: US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'

On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 22:46:51 +0100, "JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote in message
>news:8uihp9lbin7adg132uavuob8vnnakhj3q6@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:32:30 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
>> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>"JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Erilar" <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:ln7bpm$ev9$2@dont-email.me...
>>>>> "JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Erilar" <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote in message >>
>>>>>> news:ln4mcq$eau$3@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> "JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Erilar" <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote in message >>
>>>>>>>> news:ln1l1j$uqa$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>> "JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I find it very difficult to comprehend how the RETURN half of an
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> e-ticket
>>>>>>>>>> can be "mucked up". An e-ticket is just a record on a computer
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> system -
>>>>>>>>>> Amadeus in the case of BA - and it has no physical existence. It
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't >> have two halfs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps Erilar should try a few flights on Spirit Airlines in the
>>>>>>>>>> USA >>>>>> >>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> on Ryanair in Europe. She may then have some benchmark for >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> comparison.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In Europe itself I normally take the train. This was part of a
>>>>>>>>> cruise
>>>>>>>>> package. No one could understand how they mucked up the return
>>>>>>>>> half >>>>> of >>> an
>>>>>>>>> e-ticket. I even had it in my hand! Even so, what was in their
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>> didn't match it. The number was correct, but someone had butchered
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> name. Computers are seldom that kind of stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, so it wasn't British Airways who made the mistake. The error was
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> whoever booked your cruise package as you had no direct contact with
>>>>>>>> BA
>>>>>>>> in the booking process. And computers are totally without
>>>>>>>> intelligence.
>>>>>>>> They rely entirely on whoever programs them and/or feeds information
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> their programs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, everything was correct on the e-ticket for both legs of the trip,
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> the woman at the BA counter agreed. Someone had intervened and
>>>>>>> mucked >>> up
>>>>>>> my name, apparently while I was on the cruise. The ticket was part
>>>>>>> of >>> the
>>>>>>> cruise package.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But there is no evidence at all that British Airways were at fault.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing even remotely similar has ever happened with any other airline
>>>>> > I've
>>>>> dealt with.
>>>>
>>>> OK, I give in. It will be exclusively Air France from now on?
>>>
>>>SAS, Lufthansa, or United.[/color]
>>
>> Lucky them :-)[/color]
>
>Does Erilar possess an Irony Meter? If so, does she know how to switch it
>on?[/color]

I've avoided Lufthansa ever since they replaced in flight meals with a stale
bread roll in a ***** paper bag, that you had to collect as you boarded. Around
the same time a small German airline offered three fresh bread rolls in a *****
paper bag delivered to your seat and as many tins/cans of beer as you wanted.
If you were hungry you could have more than one bag of rolls.
The airline, General Air, was part owned by a German brewery. The airline used
Russian Yak 40 jets.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

[url]www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_IUPInEuc[/url]

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  #103  
Vecchio 12-06-2014, 11.54.01
Martin
 
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On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:28:56 +0200, "M@gd@" <not-me@gmail.com> wrote:
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>On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 22:46:51 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, "JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
>
> ... >>>
> ... >>> OK, I give in. It will be exclusively Air France from now on?
> ... >>
> ... >>SAS, Lufthansa, or United.
> ... >
> ... > Lucky them :-)
> ...
> ... Does Erilar possess an Irony Meter? If so, does she know how to switch it
> ... on?
>
>Are you sure it does have a switch?[/color]

Erilar suffers from r.t.e anaemia and people like us :-)

Did you go to Stonehenge as planned, Erilar?
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

[url]www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_IUPInEuc[/url]

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  #104  
Vecchio 12-06-2014, 11.54.01
Martin
 
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Predefinito Re: US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'

On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:28:56 +0200, "M@gd@" <not-me@gmail.com> wrote:
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>On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 22:46:51 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, "JohnT" <spamnot@hotmail.com>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
>
> ... >>>
> ... >>> OK, I give in. It will be exclusively Air France from now on?
> ... >>
> ... >>SAS, Lufthansa, or United.
> ... >
> ... > Lucky them :-)
> ...
> ... Does Erilar possess an Irony Meter? If so, does she know how to switch it
> ... on?
>
>Are you sure it does have a switch?[/color]

Erilar suffers from r.t.e anaemia and people like us :-)

Did you go to Stonehenge as planned, Erilar?
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

[url]www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_IUPInEuc[/url]

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  #105  
Vecchio 13-06-2014, 22.57.13
Erilar
 
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Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
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>
> Erilar suffers from r.t.e anaemia and people like us :-)[/color]

[color=blue]
>
> Did you go to Stonehenge as planned, Erilar?[/color]

Stonehenge itself, quick stroll through Visitor Center, picnic with
friends, Woodhenge, Old Sarum, Old Wardour, Farleigh Hungerford. All except
Visitor Center very interesting despite rain most of the day.

Note: irony needs more than one note to be worth notice.

--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
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  #106  
Vecchio 13-06-2014, 22.57.13
Erilar
 
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Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
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>
> Erilar suffers from r.t.e anaemia and people like us :-)[/color]

[color=blue]
>
> Did you go to Stonehenge as planned, Erilar?[/color]

Stonehenge itself, quick stroll through Visitor Center, picnic with
friends, Woodhenge, Old Sarum, Old Wardour, Farleigh Hungerford. All except
Visitor Center very interesting despite rain most of the day.

Note: irony needs more than one note to be worth notice.

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Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
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  #107  
Vecchio 14-06-2014, 10.18.52
Martin
 
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 19:57:13 +0000 (UTC), Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
wrote:
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>Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> Erilar suffers from r.t.e anaemia and people like us :-)[/color]
>
>[color=green]
>>
>> Did you go to Stonehenge as planned, Erilar?[/color]
>
>Stonehenge itself, quick stroll through Visitor Center, picnic with
>friends, Woodhenge, Old Sarum, Old Wardour, Farleigh Hungerford. All except
>Visitor Center very interesting despite rain most of the day.[/color]

but not Salisbury?
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

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  #108  
Vecchio 14-06-2014, 22.35.29
Erilar
 
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Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:[color=blue]
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 19:57:13 +0000 (UTC), Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Erilar suffers from r.t.e anaemia and people like us :-)[/color]
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Did you go to Stonehenge as planned, Erilar?[/color]
>>
>> Stonehenge itself, quick stroll through Visitor Center, picnic with
>> friends, Woodhenge, Old Sarum, Old Wardour, Farleigh Hungerford. All except
>> Visitor Center very interesting despite rain most of the day.[/color]
>
> but not Salisbury?[/color]

Too modern with limited time 8-)

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  #109  
Vecchio 14-06-2014, 22.35.29
Erilar
 
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Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:[color=blue]
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 19:57:13 +0000 (UTC), Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Erilar suffers from r.t.e anaemia and people like us :-)[/color]
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Did you go to Stonehenge as planned, Erilar?[/color]
>>
>> Stonehenge itself, quick stroll through Visitor Center, picnic with
>> friends, Woodhenge, Old Sarum, Old Wardour, Farleigh Hungerford. All except
>> Visitor Center very interesting despite rain most of the day.[/color]
>
> but not Salisbury?[/color]

Too modern with limited time 8-)

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  #110  
Vecchio 15-06-2014, 10.36.17
Martin
 
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:35:29 +0000 (UTC), Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
wrote:
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>Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:[color=green]
>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 19:57:13 +0000 (UTC), Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Erilar suffers from r.t.e anaemia and people like us :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you go to Stonehenge as planned, Erilar?
>>>
>>> Stonehenge itself, quick stroll through Visitor Center, picnic with
>>> friends, Woodhenge, Old Sarum, Old Wardour, Farleigh Hungerford. All except
>>> Visitor Center very interesting despite rain most of the day.[/color]
>>
>> but not Salisbury?[/color]
>
>Too modern with limited time 8-)[/color]

It's even younger than you and I :-)

Why did you got to Hungerford? For the antique/junque shops or because you spent
a night in The Bear Inn?
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

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