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"Doug Anderson" <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b21u7im1s4.fsf@ethel.the.log...[color=blue]
> "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>[color=green]
>> 18 months ago I asked for some help with visiting the Châteaux de la
>> Loire.
>>
>> and I got advice about a dozen or so that I should visit.
>>
>> I had intended on going immediately after I posted, but my plans
>> changed and I actually stopped off during a drive through to Spain to
>> visit a friend in October, giving me 4 days in the valley, based upon
>> staying in a hotel in Blois - when it p*ssed down every day :-(
>>
>> As the number that you guys had indicated pretty much matched the
>> lists in guide books I though that this would be long enough to visit
>> them all.
>>
>> But no, I hadn't done my research properly and when I got there I
>> picked up the leaflet from this web site
>> [url]http://www.leschateauxdelaloire.org/[/url] and there are 71 of them listed
>> (though not all are chateau) plus at least another 10 not subscribing
>> to that site.
>>
>> So, I've just come back from a two week trip where I pretty much
>> blitzed the valley from one end to the other, though I still missed
>> out a few that don't open in June (or May, or September), or were
>> closed on the day(s) that I was in that specific area, so I still need
>> at least another week to finish them all :-).
>>
>> Thanks for all you help guys.
>>
>> I don't want to post a report as it will be pretty repetitive but if
>> the interested people are still here and want to have a discussion, we
>> can go that way.
>>
>> But what I will say is that this trip didn't change my views on French
>> restaurants (in the region), the a-la-carte menus are flipping
>> expensive (basically you don't see any change from 50 Euro) and I
>> still couldn't find any menu de jour available in the evenings, though
>> one or two hotels did have buffet style offerings that were reasonably
>> priced, but that was too samey to have every day, so fast food it was
>> most days. So much for the home of Haute Cuisine![/color]
>
> Yikes. I have to say my experience of the same region is completely
> different. But maybe I'm looking for something different than you.
>
> It has been easy for me to find small pleasant restaurants with
> decent prix fixe dinner menus at a sensible price.[/color]

Available in the evening?

Or were they in the middle of nowhere? I did see one or two restaurants in
small villages offering the MdJ all day, but as I need to walk to a
restaurant for an evening meal (I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader
as to why) they were of no use
[color=blue]
>
> I will also point out that haute cuisine is not something the french
> necessarily eat every single night! The fact that some of the
> pinnacles of French cooking include complex elaborate meals does not
> mean that _every_ meal is like that - after all, if anyone ate that
> way at every meal, they would be obese.[/color]

I wasn't really using the term in its true technical sense ;-)
[color=blue]
> There is a point I agree with you about. Restaurants in a region tend
> to serve food of the region, and thus one finds that menus are often
> similar from restaurant to restaurant. (But if you are happy to eat
> in fast food restaurants, one would think that this detail shouldn't
> bother you so much.)[/color]

Actually it does. If I'm only paying 6 Euro for a take away, I'll have the
same each day. If I sitting down for a "proper" meal I expect to get
something different each day

You can call that strange if you like, but that's how I am

tim


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tim.....
 
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"Doug Anderson" <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b21u7im1s4.fsf@ethel.the.log...[color=blue]
> "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>[color=green]
>> 18 months ago I asked for some help with visiting the Châteaux de la
>> Loire.
>>
>> and I got advice about a dozen or so that I should visit.
>>
>> I had intended on going immediately after I posted, but my plans
>> changed and I actually stopped off during a drive through to Spain to
>> visit a friend in October, giving me 4 days in the valley, based upon
>> staying in a hotel in Blois - when it p*ssed down every day :-(
>>
>> As the number that you guys had indicated pretty much matched the
>> lists in guide books I though that this would be long enough to visit
>> them all.
>>
>> But no, I hadn't done my research properly and when I got there I
>> picked up the leaflet from this web site
>> [url]http://www.leschateauxdelaloire.org/[/url] and there are 71 of them listed
>> (though not all are chateau) plus at least another 10 not subscribing
>> to that site.
>>
>> So, I've just come back from a two week trip where I pretty much
>> blitzed the valley from one end to the other, though I still missed
>> out a few that don't open in June (or May, or September), or were
>> closed on the day(s) that I was in that specific area, so I still need
>> at least another week to finish them all :-).
>>
>> Thanks for all you help guys.
>>
>> I don't want to post a report as it will be pretty repetitive but if
>> the interested people are still here and want to have a discussion, we
>> can go that way.
>>
>> But what I will say is that this trip didn't change my views on French
>> restaurants (in the region), the a-la-carte menus are flipping
>> expensive (basically you don't see any change from 50 Euro) and I
>> still couldn't find any menu de jour available in the evenings, though
>> one or two hotels did have buffet style offerings that were reasonably
>> priced, but that was too samey to have every day, so fast food it was
>> most days. So much for the home of Haute Cuisine![/color]
>
> Yikes. I have to say my experience of the same region is completely
> different. But maybe I'm looking for something different than you.
>
> It has been easy for me to find small pleasant restaurants with
> decent prix fixe dinner menus at a sensible price.[/color]

Available in the evening?

Or were they in the middle of nowhere? I did see one or two restaurants in
small villages offering the MdJ all day, but as I need to walk to a
restaurant for an evening meal (I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader
as to why) they were of no use
[color=blue]
>
> I will also point out that haute cuisine is not something the french
> necessarily eat every single night! The fact that some of the
> pinnacles of French cooking include complex elaborate meals does not
> mean that _every_ meal is like that - after all, if anyone ate that
> way at every meal, they would be obese.[/color]

I wasn't really using the term in its true technical sense ;-)
[color=blue]
> There is a point I agree with you about. Restaurants in a region tend
> to serve food of the region, and thus one finds that menus are often
> similar from restaurant to restaurant. (But if you are happy to eat
> in fast food restaurants, one would think that this detail shouldn't
> bother you so much.)[/color]

Actually it does. If I'm only paying 6 Euro for a take away, I'll have the
same each day. If I sitting down for a "proper" meal I expect to get
something different each day

You can call that strange if you like, but that's how I am

tim


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tim.....
 
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"Doug Anderson" <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b21u7im1s4.fsf@ethel.the.log...[color=blue]
> "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>[color=green]
>> 18 months ago I asked for some help with visiting the Châteaux de la
>> Loire.
>>
>> and I got advice about a dozen or so that I should visit.
>>
>> I had intended on going immediately after I posted, but my plans
>> changed and I actually stopped off during a drive through to Spain to
>> visit a friend in October, giving me 4 days in the valley, based upon
>> staying in a hotel in Blois - when it p*ssed down every day :-(
>>
>> As the number that you guys had indicated pretty much matched the
>> lists in guide books I though that this would be long enough to visit
>> them all.
>>
>> But no, I hadn't done my research properly and when I got there I
>> picked up the leaflet from this web site
>> [url]http://www.leschateauxdelaloire.org/[/url] and there are 71 of them listed
>> (though not all are chateau) plus at least another 10 not subscribing
>> to that site.
>>
>> So, I've just come back from a two week trip where I pretty much
>> blitzed the valley from one end to the other, though I still missed
>> out a few that don't open in June (or May, or September), or were
>> closed on the day(s) that I was in that specific area, so I still need
>> at least another week to finish them all :-).
>>
>> Thanks for all you help guys.
>>
>> I don't want to post a report as it will be pretty repetitive but if
>> the interested people are still here and want to have a discussion, we
>> can go that way.
>>
>> But what I will say is that this trip didn't change my views on French
>> restaurants (in the region), the a-la-carte menus are flipping
>> expensive (basically you don't see any change from 50 Euro) and I
>> still couldn't find any menu de jour available in the evenings, though
>> one or two hotels did have buffet style offerings that were reasonably
>> priced, but that was too samey to have every day, so fast food it was
>> most days. So much for the home of Haute Cuisine![/color]
>
> Yikes. I have to say my experience of the same region is completely
> different. But maybe I'm looking for something different than you.
>
> It has been easy for me to find small pleasant restaurants with
> decent prix fixe dinner menus at a sensible price.[/color]

Available in the evening?

Or were they in the middle of nowhere? I did see one or two restaurants in
small villages offering the MdJ all day, but as I need to walk to a
restaurant for an evening meal (I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader
as to why) they were of no use
[color=blue]
>
> I will also point out that haute cuisine is not something the french
> necessarily eat every single night! The fact that some of the
> pinnacles of French cooking include complex elaborate meals does not
> mean that _every_ meal is like that - after all, if anyone ate that
> way at every meal, they would be obese.[/color]

I wasn't really using the term in its true technical sense ;-)
[color=blue]
> There is a point I agree with you about. Restaurants in a region tend
> to serve food of the region, and thus one finds that menus are often
> similar from restaurant to restaurant. (But if you are happy to eat
> in fast food restaurants, one would think that this detail shouldn't
> bother you so much.)[/color]

Actually it does. If I'm only paying 6 Euro for a take away, I'll have the
same each day. If I sitting down for a "proper" meal I expect to get
something different each day

You can call that strange if you like, but that's how I am

tim


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"Doug Anderson" <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b21u7im1s4.fsf@ethel.the.log...[color=blue]
> "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>[color=green]
>> 18 months ago I asked for some help with visiting the Châteaux de la
>> Loire.
>>
>> and I got advice about a dozen or so that I should visit.
>>
>> I had intended on going immediately after I posted, but my plans
>> changed and I actually stopped off during a drive through to Spain to
>> visit a friend in October, giving me 4 days in the valley, based upon
>> staying in a hotel in Blois - when it p*ssed down every day :-(
>>
>> As the number that you guys had indicated pretty much matched the
>> lists in guide books I though that this would be long enough to visit
>> them all.
>>
>> But no, I hadn't done my research properly and when I got there I
>> picked up the leaflet from this web site
>> [url]http://www.leschateauxdelaloire.org/[/url] and there are 71 of them listed
>> (though not all are chateau) plus at least another 10 not subscribing
>> to that site.
>>
>> So, I've just come back from a two week trip where I pretty much
>> blitzed the valley from one end to the other, though I still missed
>> out a few that don't open in June (or May, or September), or were
>> closed on the day(s) that I was in that specific area, so I still need
>> at least another week to finish them all :-).
>>
>> Thanks for all you help guys.
>>
>> I don't want to post a report as it will be pretty repetitive but if
>> the interested people are still here and want to have a discussion, we
>> can go that way.
>>
>> But what I will say is that this trip didn't change my views on French
>> restaurants (in the region), the a-la-carte menus are flipping
>> expensive (basically you don't see any change from 50 Euro) and I
>> still couldn't find any menu de jour available in the evenings, though
>> one or two hotels did have buffet style offerings that were reasonably
>> priced, but that was too samey to have every day, so fast food it was
>> most days. So much for the home of Haute Cuisine![/color]
>
> Yikes. I have to say my experience of the same region is completely
> different. But maybe I'm looking for something different than you.
>
> It has been easy for me to find small pleasant restaurants with
> decent prix fixe dinner menus at a sensible price.[/color]

Available in the evening?

Or were they in the middle of nowhere? I did see one or two restaurants in
small villages offering the MdJ all day, but as I need to walk to a
restaurant for an evening meal (I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader
as to why) they were of no use
[color=blue]
>
> I will also point out that haute cuisine is not something the french
> necessarily eat every single night! The fact that some of the
> pinnacles of French cooking include complex elaborate meals does not
> mean that _every_ meal is like that - after all, if anyone ate that
> way at every meal, they would be obese.[/color]

I wasn't really using the term in its true technical sense ;-)
[color=blue]
> There is a point I agree with you about. Restaurants in a region tend
> to serve food of the region, and thus one finds that menus are often
> similar from restaurant to restaurant. (But if you are happy to eat
> in fast food restaurants, one would think that this detail shouldn't
> bother you so much.)[/color]

Actually it does. If I'm only paying 6 Euro for a take away, I'll have the
same each day. If I sitting down for a "proper" meal I expect to get
something different each day

You can call that strange if you like, but that's how I am

tim


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"Doug Anderson" <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b21u7im1s4.fsf@ethel.the.log...[color=blue]
> "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>[color=green]
>> 18 months ago I asked for some help with visiting the Châteaux de la
>> Loire.
>>
>> and I got advice about a dozen or so that I should visit.
>>
>> I had intended on going immediately after I posted, but my plans
>> changed and I actually stopped off during a drive through to Spain to
>> visit a friend in October, giving me 4 days in the valley, based upon
>> staying in a hotel in Blois - when it p*ssed down every day :-(
>>
>> As the number that you guys had indicated pretty much matched the
>> lists in guide books I though that this would be long enough to visit
>> them all.
>>
>> But no, I hadn't done my research properly and when I got there I
>> picked up the leaflet from this web site
>> [url]http://www.leschateauxdelaloire.org/[/url] and there are 71 of them listed
>> (though not all are chateau) plus at least another 10 not subscribing
>> to that site.
>>
>> So, I've just come back from a two week trip where I pretty much
>> blitzed the valley from one end to the other, though I still missed
>> out a few that don't open in June (or May, or September), or were
>> closed on the day(s) that I was in that specific area, so I still need
>> at least another week to finish them all :-).
>>
>> Thanks for all you help guys.
>>
>> I don't want to post a report as it will be pretty repetitive but if
>> the interested people are still here and want to have a discussion, we
>> can go that way.
>>
>> But what I will say is that this trip didn't change my views on French
>> restaurants (in the region), the a-la-carte menus are flipping
>> expensive (basically you don't see any change from 50 Euro) and I
>> still couldn't find any menu de jour available in the evenings, though
>> one or two hotels did have buffet style offerings that were reasonably
>> priced, but that was too samey to have every day, so fast food it was
>> most days. So much for the home of Haute Cuisine![/color]
>
> Yikes. I have to say my experience of the same region is completely
> different. But maybe I'm looking for something different than you.
>
> It has been easy for me to find small pleasant restaurants with
> decent prix fixe dinner menus at a sensible price.[/color]

Available in the evening?

Or were they in the middle of nowhere? I did see one or two restaurants in
small villages offering the MdJ all day, but as I need to walk to a
restaurant for an evening meal (I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader
as to why) they were of no use
[color=blue]
>
> I will also point out that haute cuisine is not something the french
> necessarily eat every single night! The fact that some of the
> pinnacles of French cooking include complex elaborate meals does not
> mean that _every_ meal is like that - after all, if anyone ate that
> way at every meal, they would be obese.[/color]

I wasn't really using the term in its true technical sense ;-)
[color=blue]
> There is a point I agree with you about. Restaurants in a region tend
> to serve food of the region, and thus one finds that menus are often
> similar from restaurant to restaurant. (But if you are happy to eat
> in fast food restaurants, one would think that this detail shouldn't
> bother you so much.)[/color]

Actually it does. If I'm only paying 6 Euro for a take away, I'll have the
same each day. If I sitting down for a "proper" meal I expect to get
something different each day

You can call that strange if you like, but that's how I am

tim


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Paul Aubrin
 
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:52:27 +0100, tim..... wrote:
[color=blue]
> But what I will say is that this trip didn't change my views on French
> restaurants (in the region), the a-la-carte menus are flipping expensive
> (basically you don't see any change from 50 Euro) and I still couldn't
> find any menu de jour available in the evenings, though one or two
> hotels did have buffet style offerings that were reasonably priced, but
> that was too samey to have every day, so fast food it was most days. So
> much for the home of Haute Cuisine![/color]

I have not been in Blois recently, cooks change and the quality of
restaurants with them.
I am told that there are still some restaurants where you can eat a
decent meal for 20EUR in Blois, for example:
La banquette rouge
La boucherie
Le bistrot du cuisinier
Le bistrot de Léonard
Le Maldras
La palmeraie
Le lapin gourmand
Les planches

I happened to be in Deauville saturday where I though that any restaurant
would cost an arm. But actually we had a very decent 3 courses meal for
23EUR at night, and the bottle of wine was very reasonable.
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Paul Aubrin
 
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:52:27 +0100, tim..... wrote:
[color=blue]
> But what I will say is that this trip didn't change my views on French
> restaurants (in the region), the a-la-carte menus are flipping expensive
> (basically you don't see any change from 50 Euro) and I still couldn't
> find any menu de jour available in the evenings, though one or two
> hotels did have buffet style offerings that were reasonably priced, but
> that was too samey to have every day, so fast food it was most days. So
> much for the home of Haute Cuisine![/color]

I have not been in Blois recently, cooks change and the quality of
restaurants with them.
I am told that there are still some restaurants where you can eat a
decent meal for 20EUR in Blois, for example:
La banquette rouge
La boucherie
Le bistrot du cuisinier
Le bistrot de Léonard
Le Maldras
La palmeraie
Le lapin gourmand
Les planches

I happened to be in Deauville saturday where I though that any restaurant
would cost an arm. But actually we had a very decent 3 courses meal for
23EUR at night, and the bottle of wine was very reasonable.
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Paul Aubrin
 
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:52:27 +0100, tim..... wrote:
[color=blue]
> But what I will say is that this trip didn't change my views on French
> restaurants (in the region), the a-la-carte menus are flipping expensive
> (basically you don't see any change from 50 Euro) and I still couldn't
> find any menu de jour available in the evenings, though one or two
> hotels did have buffet style offerings that were reasonably priced, but
> that was too samey to have every day, so fast food it was most days. So
> much for the home of Haute Cuisine![/color]

I have not been in Blois recently, cooks change and the quality of
restaurants with them.
I am told that there are still some restaurants where you can eat a
decent meal for 20EUR in Blois, for example:
La banquette rouge
La boucherie
Le bistrot du cuisinier
Le bistrot de Léonard
Le Maldras
La palmeraie
Le lapin gourmand
Les planches

I happened to be in Deauville saturday where I though that any restaurant
would cost an arm. But actually we had a very decent 3 courses meal for
23EUR at night, and the bottle of wine was very reasonable.
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:52:27 +0100, tim..... wrote:
[color=blue]
> But what I will say is that this trip didn't change my views on French
> restaurants (in the region), the a-la-carte menus are flipping expensive
> (basically you don't see any change from 50 Euro) and I still couldn't
> find any menu de jour available in the evenings, though one or two
> hotels did have buffet style offerings that were reasonably priced, but
> that was too samey to have every day, so fast food it was most days. So
> much for the home of Haute Cuisine![/color]

I have not been in Blois recently, cooks change and the quality of
restaurants with them.
I am told that there are still some restaurants where you can eat a
decent meal for 20EUR in Blois, for example:
La banquette rouge
La boucherie
Le bistrot du cuisinier
Le bistrot de Léonard
Le Maldras
La palmeraie
Le lapin gourmand
Les planches

I happened to be in Deauville saturday where I though that any restaurant
would cost an arm. But actually we had a very decent 3 courses meal for
23EUR at night, and the bottle of wine was very reasonable.
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Paul Aubrin
 
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:52:27 +0100, tim..... wrote:
[color=blue]
> But what I will say is that this trip didn't change my views on French
> restaurants (in the region), the a-la-carte menus are flipping expensive
> (basically you don't see any change from 50 Euro) and I still couldn't
> find any menu de jour available in the evenings, though one or two
> hotels did have buffet style offerings that were reasonably priced, but
> that was too samey to have every day, so fast food it was most days. So
> much for the home of Haute Cuisine![/color]

I have not been in Blois recently, cooks change and the quality of
restaurants with them.
I am told that there are still some restaurants where you can eat a
decent meal for 20EUR in Blois, for example:
La banquette rouge
La boucherie
Le bistrot du cuisinier
Le bistrot de Léonard
Le Maldras
La palmeraie
Le lapin gourmand
Les planches

I happened to be in Deauville saturday where I though that any restaurant
would cost an arm. But actually we had a very decent 3 courses meal for
23EUR at night, and the bottle of wine was very reasonable.
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